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Zombie Recipe
pappythesailor
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From: Mass.
Posted: 2008-05-09 09:18 am   Permalink

Am I the only one who's still not convinced about the 1934 Zombie? Specifically, Bum never questions whether 'Don's Mix' is the same as 'New Don's Mix'. I mean The Bum maintains it's plausible that the Zombie Punch evolved into the Spievak Zombie. Then why wouldn't New Don's Mix be as different from Don's Mix as the "old" and "new" Zombies?

It's a great recipe and Jeff Berry deserves all the credit in the world but I still think this might not be THE Zombie.


 
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Bongo Bungalow
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Posted: 2008-05-09 09:59 am   Permalink

Well, I'm in the process of putting together the 1934 recipe for a tasting, and I'm thinkin', "This is a significant recipe."

Now, the one-and-only first time Donn made this drink, was this the exact recipe? Maybe, maybe not. The second time Donn made this drink, was this the recipe? Who knows.

The Bum says I'm gonna love this drink and this recipe has some place in history, so that's good enough for me.


 
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snackbar
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From: Grand Fenwick
Posted: 2008-05-09 10:06 am   Permalink

I think the Spievak Zombie is fake, I don't think that Don would really give his recipe to Spievak.
The '56 Zombie however, has a lot of similar ingredients to the Zombie Punch. As this was served at the Beachcomber, it seems plausible to me that the '34 evolved into the '56.
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Thunderlips
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Posted: 2008-05-09 5:20 pm   Permalink

Pappy, you're a troublemaker!

 
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Jason Wickedly
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Posted: 2008-05-09 8:49 pm   Permalink

You know, I hate to say it but I was thinking the same thing about the Don's Mix. If cinnamon syrup was #4, what was #2? And was cinnamon syrup the only ingredient in Spices #4? Can anyone tell I'm drinking a '34 Zombie right now? Whatever, it's still a hell of a drink and a major improvement over the Spievak.

 
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Bongo Bungalow
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Posted: 2008-05-10 11:55 am   Permalink

Tried the 1934 recipe last night, loved it, but it's tricky. As with many of these, you've got to be exact or the balance is off. I mean, it goes without saying, right? And of course with the rum-and-three-fruit-juices type of drinks there is no balance at all to mess up.

I'll be making the 1934 recipe for a group of business friends on Wednesday afternoon. It should be a good time.

(Oh, and I used Lucid Absinthe, 3 drops.)


 
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Bongo Bungalow
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Posted: 2008-05-17 7:18 pm   Permalink

Research, research, research! Still fine tuning a modern version of the 1934 recipe, here's what I've got:

-3/4 oz. fresh lime juice
-1/2 oz. Starbuck's cinn. sugar
- 11/2 oz. Appleton Estate V/X
- 1 1/2 oz. Cruzan Eastate Rum
- 1 oz. Bacardi 151 Rum
- dash of bitters
- 3 drops of Lucid Absinthe
- 1/2 oz. gredadine
- small spash of pineapple juice
- 6oz. of crushed ice
Blend all for 5 seconds having added the crushed ice last.
Fill chimney glass, add ice to fill glass and garnish with sprig of mint

Note that as a Lipidor user I've left out he grapefruit juice that would go with the cinn/sugar. And until I get to Illinois I can't find any demerara 151 rum.

Tastes pretty good to me!




 
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defaultet
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From: California
Posted: 2008-05-18 10:32 pm   Permalink

Regarding my attempts at making the Don the Beachcomber Zombie (p. 33 of Intoxica)...

I tried it again with Trader Vic's passion fruit syrup. More or less the same result but tasted better than Grenadine.

Tried it also with a passion fruit liquor (30% alcohol). I halved the amount of 151 because of this. And then I added a little guavaberry liquor (30% alcohol) for color. This I thought tasted better.

I don't know, I think this particular recipe in general just has too much overpowering citrus. I've had other zombies that just plain taste better, the ones that use orange juice or orange curacao.


 
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Jason Wickedly
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Posted: 2008-05-19 08:57 am   Permalink

About the grenadine...I've been using the Stirrings brand because it has real pomegranate and all that, but I don't think it has as much red dye. As a result, my drink turns out an orangish-brown color, not the red color that the "Zombiefied" Jeff Berry is holding on page 120 of "Sippin' Safari". Should I use Rose's Grenadine to try to duplicate that color? Or any other suggestions?

[ This Message was edited by: Jason Wickedly 2008-05-19 08:58 ]


 
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bewarethe151
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Posted: 2008-05-19 10:37 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2008-05-19 08:57, Jason Wickedly wrote:
About the grenadine...I've been using the Stirrings brand because it has real pomegranate and all that, but I don't think it has as much red dye. As a result, my drink turns out an orangish-brown color, not the red color that the "Zombiefied" Jeff Berry is holding on page 120 of "Sippin' Safari". Should I use Rose's Grenadine to try to duplicate that color? Or any other suggestions?

[ This Message was edited by: Jason Wickedly 2008-05-19 08:58 ]



Jason, I, too, noticed the same color variation. Most of the time, I am mixing these up and drinking them, one after another(usually more than 2), in an unlit closet adjacent to my den so the color is unimportant. But, when I serve for friends, I like them to have more appeal. I put a drop of red food dye, organic, of course, into each drink. It does the trick. I feel this is better than compromising the taste by using a lesser grenadine.


 
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GatorRob
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Posted: 2008-05-19 12:45 pm   Permalink

Hey Bongo, you really must get your hands on some Demerara 151. Until then, you simply haven't had a 1934 zombie. There's just no comparison between it and Bacardi 151. The only really positive thing I can say about Bacardi 151 is it makes a really nice flame when you light it up!

 
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Jason Wickedly
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Posted: 2008-05-19 12:56 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2008-05-19 10:37, bewarethe151 wrote:
Quote:

On 2008-05-19 08:57, Jason Wickedly wrote:
About the grenadine...I've been using the Stirrings brand because it has real pomegranate and all that, but I don't think it has as much red dye. As a result, my drink turns out an orangish-brown color, not the red color that the "Zombiefied" Jeff Berry is holding on page 120 of "Sippin' Safari". Should I use Rose's Grenadine to try to duplicate that color? Or any other suggestions?

[ This Message was edited by: Jason Wickedly 2008-05-19 08:58 ]



Jason, I, too, noticed the same color variation. Most of the time, I am mixing these up and drinking them, one after another(usually more than 2), in an unlit closet adjacent to my den so the color is unimportant. But, when I serve for friends, I like them to have more appeal. I put a drop of red food dye, organic, of course, into each drink. It does the trick. I feel this is better than compromising the taste by using a lesser grenadine.



Thanks, I'll try it. By the way, anyone in the SoCal area...Hi-Time Cellars has a nice Zombie glass for $1.99 each. They were labeled that way on the shelf too...not chimney or Collins glasses, but Zombie glasses. I picked up 4 of them.


 
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bigtikidude
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Posted: 2008-05-21 11:11 pm   Permalink

finally the perfect ceramic mug for the Zombie drink
http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=28412&forum=12&8


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Bongo Bungalow
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From: Indiana
Posted: 2008-05-23 02:25 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2008-05-19 12:45, GatorRob wrote:
Hey Bongo, you really must get your hands on some Demerara 151. Until then, you simply haven't had a 1934 zombie. There's just no comparison between it and Bacardi 151. The only really positive thing I can say about Bacardi 151 is it makes a really nice flame when you light it up!



Rob, I know you are right! I've found some liquor stores that are supposed to carry El Dorado in Chicago which is about 21/2 hours away. As soon as I can get there, I'm so there! (For the effort, I wish they had Lemon Hart.)



 
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Johnny Dollar
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Posted: 2008-05-23 08:59 am   Permalink

our local alterna-rag mentioned making jeff berry's zombie and i was all, alright!

then i read on and they said they made it with ruby red and bacardi

http://bob.citypaper.com/special/story.asp?id=15744

i did not DIG...

mixed feelings... hopefully they might be inclined to make it better the second time around.


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