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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2011-02-10 4:10 pm   Permalink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijioI5wQ4hM&feature=related
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always on the beach
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Posted: 2011-02-11 03:39 am   Permalink

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On 2011-02-10 16:10, lucas vigor wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijioI5wQ4hM&feature=related




Great song and a very good version!! I haven't heard this one before. Thanks for sharing!


 
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socksoff
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Posted: 2011-02-13 4:08 pm   Permalink

That was sexy.

 
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King Bushwich the 33rd
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Posted: 2011-02-13 11:30 pm   Permalink

But was the Buddy Love character suppose to be a parody of Dean Martin? Or Frank Sinatra?

(unlike
Bunny Manlove who was a character in the movie "Ed Wood" but in real life, his name was Dudley Manlove)


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Kill Devil
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Posted: 2011-02-16 6:24 pm   Permalink

I've heard it was still alive and swinging Buddy Greco, which would make perfect sense (to me anyways)

 
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JOHN-O
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Posted: 2011-02-16 7:28 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-02-13 23:30, King Bushwich the 33rd wrote:
But was the Buddy Love character suppose to be a parody of Dean Martin? Or Frank Sinatra?


Buddy Love was Sinatra. Even though Frankie was a music icon, legend, champion of civil rights, etc. in real life he was a bully and an asshole.

Go figure.


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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2011-02-17 02:30 am   Permalink

It was a genius idea of Jerry to apply the Jekyll and Hyde concept to the modern world with the nerdy intellectual Professor being one side and the egocentric pop singer being the other side of the ego.

 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2011-02-17 06:24 am   Permalink

That is the bar of my dreams!
Look at how it has multi levels.
The first time I saw that movie I felt that bar was the star.
Jerry is cool too.


 
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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2011-02-17 06:58 am   Permalink

Yeah, truly, the bar IS the star! That's why I love the movie so much. Sure, not tiki, but great atomic age style!


And the jazz combo is typical of the swinging west coast style....piano, bass, drums, bongo and flute! Just does not get much cooler then that, and as I watch it, always reminds me that I am seriously living in the wrong era!


 
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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2011-02-17 09:05 am   Permalink

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On 2011-02-16 19:28, JOHN-O wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-02-13 23:30, King Bushwich the 33rd wrote:
But was the Buddy Love character suppose to be a parody of Dean Martin? Or Frank Sinatra?


Buddy Love was Sinatra. Even though Frankie was a music icon, legend, champion of civil rights, etc. in real life he was a bully and an asshole.

Go figure.


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But John, I do consider everything you mentioned to be "real life"

I do take issue with this statement, though, that he was a bully and asshole. (I am biased, because Frank is my all-time favorite musician)…but, most of the negative publicity attributed to Frank was a result of hatchet jobs done on him by the press, and especially people like Kitty Kelly.

Frank was a good man. He was very public with his affection and friendship with African Americans, and that was something that was frowned upon during the 50’s and early 60s, but here is Frank, palling around with Sammy Davis, serving as his best man at the wedding (which was an inter-racial marriage) and performing with Count Basie. He also tried very hard to make a movie with a black listed director during the “red scare”, drawing a lot of heat and criticism for doing so.

As far as mob connections go, Frank was an Italian American entertainer, and bound to attract the attention of mobsters, as did many other entertainers back in the day. Jimmy Durante, the Marx brothers, etc…all had extensive “connections”. Back then, it was just a fact of life that if you wanted to perform at certain nightclubs, you were going to cross paths with the “guys” eventually.

I think Frank has been maligned far too often. I also think he was very much misunderstood.


 
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Dr. Zarkov
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Posted: 2011-02-17 10:25 am   Permalink

The comic Shecky Greene, who was a running buddy of Sinatra's, used to tell this joke: "I love Frank. He saved my life once. Two guys were beating me up when Frank wandered by and said to them: 'You can stop now.'"

It may take a moment for the meaning of that to sink in.


 
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JOHN-O
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Posted: 2011-02-17 11:37 am   Permalink

Hi Lucas. I base my comments on the numerous accounts I've read of his spoiled and arrogant behavior when he owned points in the Sands. The most infamous (and confirmed) story is when he flew into a drunken rage when Howard Hughes cut off his casino credit. Sinatra then drove a golf cart through a plate glass window only to have his teeth knocked out by casino manager Carl Cohen after overturning his table. Yes egotism goes hand in hand with fame, but you don't hear those same horror stories about fellow Rat Packer Dean Martin.

Also I think Sinatra's involvement with organized crime was deeper than you think. It's been documented that he acted as the bag man for Lucky Luciano during a mob summit meeting in Havana.

This is not to dispute the talent and legacy of Sinatra, I'm a big fan of his music as well. I can't help but feel however that Jerry Lewis was channeling someone he actually knew.


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Martiki-bird
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Posted: 2011-02-17 11:53 am   Permalink

Jerry Lewis has more than once (his book, a documentary on the NP) denied that the buddy Love character was based in any way on his former partner Dean Martin, but he's never actually said who (is anyone) the character was based upon. Having said that, debate away.

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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2011-02-17 12:28 pm   Permalink

These days, we have Justin Bieber and Lady gaga....


But back then, we had this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1bVpbu8bXQ




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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2011-02-17 6:33 pm   Permalink

That album is one of my all time favorites!

Many people say Jerry Lewis was an A-hole too, by the way. I can see that. Still, amazing movies.

When you are famous, a lot of people have a lot of opinions about you, even if they never talked to you, like this writer:

http://www.esquire.com/features/ESQ1003-OCT_SINATRA_rev_

...which doesn't necessarily mean they are wrong. I love this article, too.


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