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tikijoeandthebambooband
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Joined: Jun 17, 2011
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Posted: 2011-06-17 08:03 am Permalink

hey there,

I thought I would post a link to my website for everyone to check out. Our music is not quite exotica but it is most definitely Polynesian themed. Let me know what you think
http://www.reverbnation.com/tikijoe
http://www.facebook.com/tikijoeandthebambooband

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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2011-06-17 08:47 am Permalink

I gave it an honest listen. Passable ska music, good bass playing...but sorry man, this has nothing to do with either "tiki" as we understand it, nor with "polynesian"....and there already is an exotica band called "Tiki Joe's Ocean" which has been in existence for at least 3 years now, so you might want to look at a new name.

Your music sounds more carribean themed then anything else. But on Tiki central, we mainly talk about exotica and vintage hawaiian music as being "tiki"....(although surf music has crept into the scene as well-something I don't actually agree with)

Unfortunately, the public at large do not really understand the concept of "tiki" or "Polynesian Pop"....but this forum has tons and tons of information about the scene. I always suggest to newcomers here that they purchase either "Tiki Modern" or "The Book of Tiki" by Sven Kirsten, because these two books will teach you everything you want to know about "tiki" as a culture and style.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiki_culture

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[ This Message was edited by: lucas vigor 2011-06-17 08:50 ]

tikijoeandthebambooband
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Posted: 2011-06-17 09:22 am Permalink

hey thanks for listening. i know it isn't exotica. ive been djing and playing music as tiki joe for atleast 5 years. The ska and reggae may owe more to the carribbean but the song called filipino love song is definitely influenced by the pacific. The final album will be having some exotica instrumentals along with the ska and reggae. It is probably most like trop rock. Anyways I appreciate you listening. I also appreciated the links. I own a lot of tiki albums from the originals like martin denny to don tiki. I just like the idea that tiki culture can embrace all of the island lifestyle, from exotica, surf, hawaiian, to reggae, calypso, and trop rock.

[ This Message was edited by: tikijoeandthebambooband 2011-06-17 09:25 ]

lucas vigor
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From: "I've chopped my way through real jungle

Mr. Ho
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From: Boston, MA

Posted: 2011-06-17 11:34 am Permalink

Ok, so Lucas left us out so I will add us to the list

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XeKFs29gEo

hehe .
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socksoff
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From: A private Island off the coast of Macau

Posted: 2011-06-17 1:46 pm Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-06-17 11:34, Mr. Ho wrote:
Ok, so Lucas left us out so I will add us to the list

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XeKFs29gEo

hehe .

this was added to my favorites on youtube. you're killing it right there ho. killing i say.

lucas vigor
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From: "I've chopped my way through real jungle

Posted: 2011-06-17 2:56 pm Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-06-17 11:34, Mr. Ho wrote:
Ok, so Lucas left us out so I will add us to the list

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XeKFs29gEo

hehe .

Ooops! Another outstanding example of modern tiki bands!

lucas vigor
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From: "I've chopped my way through real jungle

Posted: 2011-06-17 3:04 pm Permalink

And I hope everyone understands I am not putting down this new band at all....I just am against the encroachment of other styles in the tiki scene...further diluting a scene that is already so far from the original poly pop as it once was. Too often, people use the name "tiki" or throw a tiki idol on their album cover, thinking that is enough...but I am against adding "tropical rock" onto the list of what is poly pop. Do that, and you might as well include Jimmy Buffett in there.

"tiki" music, (in my opinion) must have some relation to poly pop. The bands I made links to all have a true poly pop lineage in some way or another. Including, of course, Mr. Ho's group. Plus, the use of the title "Tiki Joe" may in fact be the guy's name, but Tiki Joe's ocean is playing more authentic "tiki" music, and has a more established reputation. I suggest this new poster changes his band's name to something that fits his bands style, which is Ska music.

I did, however, like your filipino themed song...again, not tiki...but certainly good!

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[ This Message was edited by: lucas vigor 2011-06-20 17:02 ]

Mr. Ho
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Posted: 2011-06-17 4:07 pm Permalink

thanks Socksoff! There are a couple others from the same show we just posted; check out our channel! And, we're live in NYC tomorrow for our CD release if you are nearby!

Wow, way off topic.

I think exotica/tiki is pretty flexible as a term; my stuff may be a stretch - I imagine each person sorta has their personal boundaries as to what fits, and what doesn't.

best,
Mr. HO

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socksoff
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Posted: 2011-06-18 11:17 pm Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-06-17 16:07, Mr. Ho wrote:
thanks Socksoff! There are a couple others from the same show we just posted; check out our channel! And, we're live in NYC tomorrow for our CD release if you are nearby! Wow, way off topic.

I think exotica/tiki is pretty flexible as a term; my stuff may be a stretch - I imagine each person sorta has their personal boundaries as to what fits, and what doesn't.

best,
Mr. HO

sorry to be off-topic. mr ho: i unfortunately live on a private island off the coast of macau. you and your band are invited to play for my girlfriend, the president of united states, his wife, their friends and other delegates.

keep rocking in the free world my friend!

[ This Message was edited by: socksoff 2011-06-18 23:19 ]

bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2011-06-19 12:07 am Permalink

Thank you so much Lucas for helping to uphold my adage "If it says Tiki on it, it should have Tiki in it!"

This has nothing to do with elitism or snobbery, it just expresses the desire to retain the essence of what makes Tiki style unique, and separates it from other, often more generic "Island Lifestyle" themes. This concept is especially hard to grasp since Tiki seems like such a melange of various exotic cultures to begin with. It is indeed, but in its own specific way, which makes it so interesting.

Since you showed some good U-Tube examples

:

I tried to shed some further light on the elements of Tiki style by producing a vintage Exotica compilation entitled "The Sound of Tiki", in which I connect certain concepts of Tiki culture with specific songs, with a 50 page booklet full of images illustrating these various concepts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxX-Sfu-I_0

tikijoeandthebambooband
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Posted: 2011-06-20 12:59 pm Permalink

I understand your desire to hold on to what once was. Tiki music though has changed over time. Most of those groups you posted have added something to the tiki sound wether it be latin percussion or surf guitar. Our attempt is not to be just a ska band or a full on exotica sound. We are trying to create music that brings in all the elements of the islands. Hopefully our finished album will help show more about what Im talking about.

As far as changing the name, not going to happen.

Anyways I enjoyed all of the artists that you posted. Thanks for taking the time to listen.

lucas vigor
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Posted: 2011-06-20 1:33 pm Permalink

Unfotunately, like too many people, you just are not getting the concept of tiki. That's ok. Just don't expect much enthusiasm from most of us. Tiki is not about generic "island" culture..it is very specific, and about the mid-century americanization and tacky appropriation of pacific island culture and artifacts. The music was related to jazz, and was played by jazz musicians. Rock is not a part of Tiki, though there are some rock bands here on this forum who do have a large following, and though I don't consider them Tiki either, they are quirky enough to fit in with what the people here like.

The poster "Big Bro Tiki" is an authority on Tiki. He wrote both the books I cited, and is an international expert and author on the subject. I tried to explain, by posting links, what "tiki" music is....yes, they added some modern touches, but Tiki is in fact, a celebration of "what was". I think you probably need to do a little more research to understand that we celebrate and explore mid-century poly pop here. However, I can see that your mind is made up on this subject, and you have no intention of understanding that Ska music is not Tiki Music.

Occasionally, this forum is infiltrated by the Buffet and Island crowd. That's ok too. You are welcome here, but don't expect your addition of non-tiki stuff to be celebrated, or to go un-checked by assholes like me, who are trying very hard to keep the Tiki world pure and unadulterated.

Mostly, people who have nothing Tiki to talk about go to either the bildge or beyond tiki section of the forum to post.

Is this tiki?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-NGlOB4hJA

No, it's not. But it is cool as hell, and should have been posted in bildge.

tikiyaki
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Posted: 2011-06-20 3:06 pm Permalink

Tiki Joe.....you're late to the party with the name. If you'd rather not have any confusion in the marketplace, I'd strongly suggest a name change if you expect anyone on THIS forum to give you the time of day. Tiki Joe's Ocean has 3 records out, and a Hawaiian Music Award, you can be as Don Quixote as you like, but no one on on here is going to take you seriously as "Tiki Joe....." because one already exists.

What you're doing sounds cool but are barking up the wrong tree as well, coming on to TC and trying to convince the people in here that Carribbean Music is "Tiki", especially since the very explanation of this site is explained as such :

Tiki Central is a place to celebrate the classic Tiki Bars of the mid-century and the design aesthetic they established. This movement grew in popularity after World War II when America had a new fascination with the South Seas and Hawaii. Tiki Bars sought to bring an idealized tropical paradise into the concrete jungle of the Modern World. Very little of it was genuine -- born mostly out of the likes of Hollywood art directors and modern architects -- but it all seemed real to a then-naďve publics eye. The Tiki style started in bars and restaurants but soon spilled over into all forms of popular culture, including music, food, dress, TV and movies, and other forms of architecture.

The Tiki that Tiki Central focuses on is a mid-century American invention that is Polynesia-inspired. Were here to discuss classic Tiki, what made it great, how to celebrate it and preserve it today, and how to create and influence new Tiki that isnt generic, watered down, or misguided. The definitive guide is The Book Of Tiki, and we highly recommend that everyone on Tiki Central get the book and read up.

What Tiki Central Isn't
Everyone here at Tiki Central is passionate about the Polynesian Pop movement. While the exact edges are blurry, we can give you a bit of insight into what Tiki Central is not about:

Its not about Jimmy Buffett and Parrotheads
Its not modern plastic, brightly-colored tiki party decorations
Its not about the Caribbean/Key west design aesthetic
Its not about Reggae
Its not about African-art inspired masks/carvings/design
Its not about Margaritas and tequila-based drinks
It's not about simply anything that has a tiki on it or in it
It is okay to like one or more of the above and be a member of Tiki Central, just remember that it's not our focus. There are plenty of places on the web for that. We encourage new users who may not know what Tiki is to read up, search our forums, and ask questions.

Further Reading
If youd like to know more about the kind of Tiki that Tiki Central focuses on, and what we don't, we recommend the following:

The Book of Tiki (book)

Anyway, good luck with your record

Tiki Bill
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Posted: 2011-06-20 3:22 pm Permalink

Been a while sense I posted here, had to put off my exotica project for a while to make ends meet in this crazy new economy, But I have to agree with Tikiaki, While the tunes are good, I would leave a true tiki bar if they started playing it. Not because it's bad, it just don't fit the atmosphere. I'm sure I didn't make the above list because of my absence from the scene lately, but here is one of my exotica numbers for your listening pleasure. http://soundcloud.com/dj-lord-fader/island-mist

Tiki Bill.
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