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ErkNoLikeFire
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|  Posted: 2011-07-14 11:54 pm Permalink
Any interesting things to share?
http://www.cracked.com/article_19259_6-mind-blowing-ways-starship-troopers-predicted-future.html
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Club Nouméa
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| Posted: 2011-07-16 03:59 am Permalink
Very interesting article.
I remember reading Robert Heinlein's book when I was 11 years old, so it has been a while, but looking back on it, the original novel (first published in 1959, and which the film follows reasonably closely), seems to me to be directly inspired by the War in the Pacific.
6. The unprovoked attack by aliens = Pearl Harbor
5. The first assault that goes wrong = the US ground forces' initial missteps against the Japanese Army in places like the Philippines, where they found out that their racial stereotype of the "Japs" as puny, short-sighted incompetents was not quite as accurate as they thought.
4. Shock and Awe = the US forces' softening up of Pacific island targets with massive artillery bombardments and carpet bombing prior to sending in the Marines (who I reckon Heinlein based his "Starship Troopers" on*).
3. Prisoners (and abuses thereof) = the inhumane "take no prisoners" approach adopted by both Japanese and later US forces during the Pacific, mainly as a result of repeated Japanese massacres of prisoners, and Japanese soldiers' habit of turning on their captors, even after having "surrendered". After the initial defeats experienced by Allied forces in the Pacific and the Far East, there were also various propaganda films made in an endeavour to prove that the "Japs" were not superhuman soldiers and could be beaten.
2. Propaganda - Hollywood churned out heaps of similar anti-Japanese propaganda during WWII
1. The end - I would compare this moment to the victory at Guadalcanal, when the US forces realised that they could beat Japanese forces, that they had worked out their tactics, and that they were going to win the war.
So, nice theory, but I think you need to look backwards rather than forwards in time to understand where Starship Troopers is coming from.
CN
* The line "you want to live forever?" is a part of US Marine Corps history, although it dates from the First World War:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Daly#.22Do_you_want_to_live_forever.3F.22_quote
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ErkNoLikeFire
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| Posted: 2011-07-16 10:15 pm Permalink
It's been some time since I've read it myself but I do remember some ties to the war in the pacific. I think the movie stands apart from the novel in many ways and
I liked the connections (however tenuous) between it and the current wars that the article was highlighting. It's from a satire based website, but I thought it had an interesting correlation or two.
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ErkNoLikeFire
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| Posted: 2011-07-16 10:26 pm Permalink
If by chance you may be a fan of Fugazi or the Wu Tang Clan and/or like free music, this is an interesting listen.
http://wugazi.com/
...or perhaps you enjoy the classic cinema.
http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/villageoftheg/
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Club Nouméa
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From: Wanganui
| Posted: 2011-07-18 02:38 am Permalink
Yes, it's certainly an intriguing and cleverly-written article.
CN
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ErkNoLikeFire
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| Posted: 2011-07-31 12:40 am Permalink
http://www.cracked.com/video_18292_why-superheroes-make-terrible-bosses.html
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| Posted: 2011-07-31 12:58 am Permalink
It made me laugh!
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ErkNoLikeFire
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| Posted: 2011-08-04 10:52 pm Permalink
It did make the day a little better.
The Spielberg Curriculum
Supposedly these are the 206 films a person needs to see if they want to work for/with Stephen Spielberg. It's been disproven, but these are amazing films you should see anyway. I especially like that The Quiet Man, and 3 Albert Brooks film's are there. I've seen 127 of the films on the list, which makes me think I need to leave the damn house more.
https://docs.google.com/docume​nt/d/1i_Veb7bL4VtDWDdoRegyRPWR​xm5MrisFO9sQ9KZ4SaE/edit?hl=en​_US&pli=1#
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