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lucas vigor
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Joined: May 12, 2004
Posts: 3985
From: SOCAL
Posted: 2011-07-18 7:23 pm   Permalink

People like cribe don't get Tiki and never will. But if they would take the time to actually read the posts in this forum, they may actually, despite themselves, learn something. If this cribe spent time in a bar built by people here, people like bamboo ben, for example, they might finally understand the art behind what we do. I can't imagine any sane person could compare one of the masterworks our artists build compared to the decorations bought at party city or even wallmart that cribe is using. It's like comparing a cheap, tourist sword made of stainless steel in taiwan to a handmade katana that took months to build. The people on this forum have spent years lovingly collecting and building home tiki bars, sometimes even longer when money is tight. The true tiki bar is not something you cobble together over a drunk weekend with buffett music or reggae blasting and annoying the neighboors. Think, cribe, about the sheer volume of work involved in building a true tiki bar, and then compare what you have built with the ones you see here. There is a lot to see here, and none of it looks like a sports bar in key west. Try harder, learn to appreciate the art of tiki, and remember that tiki central is the epicenter and repository of the greatest tiki art seen since the 50's.

 
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jamaica joe
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Posted: 2011-07-18 7:35 pm   Permalink

Thats fine you made your point Lucas,but why downgrade my bar to make it? Reread your post and ask yourself if the person was standing in front of me would i make that same comment? If not,don't post it. Cheap decorations from walmarts? I'll put the amount of labor it took to install all that brick paver,and the landscaping,and the pool installation,and the bar and grill table construction against any of the tiki bars on here. Lucas you think you know but you have no idea.

    
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Traderpup
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Joined: Mar 26, 2002
Posts: 1049
From: Long Beach, CA
Posted: 2011-07-18 7:59 pm   Permalink

Wasting away again....... salt shaker something something....

 
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jamaica joe
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Posted: 2011-07-18 8:04 pm   Permalink

Lucas can help you with the rest of the words

    
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lucas vigor
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Joined: May 12, 2004
Posts: 3985
From: SOCAL
Posted: 2011-07-18 9:27 pm   Permalink

Joe, why don't you try and find the book of tiki, or the second one, tiki modern. One quick read and you would know what I am talking about. It wouldn't take that much time to finish your bar and make it look rad. Tiki is all about mood and ambience. Dark, less lighting, less pre-fab stuff and less generic store-bought stuff. It not only should look good at night, but also in the light. Start with a good soundtrack like ANY martin denny or arthur lyman, or better yet, order the new tikiyaki orchestra CD, "aloha baby" to get yourself in the right mood. Would'nt hurt to try whipping up some rum based and authentic tiki drinks. Shitloads of recipes can be found right here in this forum. Try it for a whle and then decide if I am being a crazy purist or not. You are not from a place in the US where there a lot of examples of real tiki bars left, but go to the finding tiki section here and take a look at what is there. Lots of documentation of old and famous places to peruse. Once you catch the tiki bug, you will throw away your tequila and corona for good.

 
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JOHN-O
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Joined: May 16, 2008
Posts: 2691
From: Dogtown, USA
Posted: 2011-07-18 10:18 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-07-18 21:27, lucas vigor wrote:
...you will throw away your tequila and corona for good.


Sorry Lucas, but Joe DO NOT throw away your tequila. There are several Tequila-based Tropical cocktails, one of which is my favorite at the Tiki Ti. The Jim's Special is a Mai Tai with tequila added. Yes I know it sounds gross but it's really quite good. Also Kelly at the Tonga Hut makes me one of her original drinks that uses tequila as a base. It's kick-ass and I could give up rum forever based on drinks like that.

If Tikiphiles aren't allowed to drink tequila then I don't want to be a Tikiphile.

Do ditch the Corona however, might I suggest the more Caribbean (but not Tiki) appropriate Red Stripe ??

Other than that... what Lucas said.

[ This Message was edited by: JOHN-O 2011-07-19 07:51 ]


 
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Hakalugi
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Joined: Aug 10, 2004
Posts: 3055
From: Redondo Beach, CA
Posted: 2011-07-18 10:23 pm   Permalink

Jamaica Joe, here are some photos from some of the outdoor Tiki bars that members here have built, this does not mean they don't have anything Tiki on the interior but only that I am showing exterior photos. Hopefully these will give you a better idea of where we are coming from and maybe inspire you as well.

This is just a small sampling hastily put together in no particular order. Of course there is much much more to these locations and the photos hardly do them justice.



RINCON ROOM:
















QUEEN KAMEHAMEHA'S
















THE WAIKIKI WOMB


































 
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jamaica joe
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Posted: 2011-07-19 06:24 am   Permalink

Just out of curiosity do you guys hate Bahama Breeze restaurant?
Here's a song for you "Mountain Top" by Gappy Ranks, google it, listen to it.


    
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RevBambooBen
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Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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From: Huntikington Beach
Posted: 2011-07-19 07:36 am   Permalink



is this child endangerment???



 
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JOHN-O
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Joined: May 16, 2008
Posts: 2691
From: Dogtown, USA
Posted: 2011-07-19 07:39 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-07-19 06:24, jamaica joe wrote:
Just out of curiosity do you guys hate Bahama Breeze restaurant?
Here's a song for you "Mountain Top" by Gappy Ranks, google it, listen to it.


Jamaica Joe, people here don't "hate" Caribbean culture and/or reggae, it's just that most feel its a SEPARATE thing from Tiki. Many Tikiphiles here are ex-first and second generation Punk rockers, and so you'll find reggae (which had a good Punk crossover) in their album/CD collections (mine included).

The reason why many here react so strongly to posts like yours, is that they feel you might be trying to usurp the definition of what true Tiki-style is, into something it's not. I don't think that was your intent but do be aware it's a pretty sensitive subject around here.

Topical interest in Caribbean culture (or style) does have some overlap with Jimmy Buffett and his music, and if anything is "hated" around here, it's the Parrothead Nation.


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GROG
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Joined: Jun 21, 2006
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From: Tujunga
Posted: 2011-07-19 09:08 am   Permalink

Congratulations, you gave Lucas something to do to keep him from getting bored yesterday. His first post was at 6:53am and the last was at 9:27pm. That's a nice FULL day of arguing.

 
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bigbadtikidaddy
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Joined: Mar 24, 2002
Posts: 441
Posted: 2011-07-19 10:11 am   Permalink

really? this is still going on? please lock this thread, delete it, bury it, and salt the earth.

 
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Chuck Tatum is Tiki
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Joined: May 12, 2011
Posts: 1674
From: Southern Cailifornia
Posted: 2011-07-19 10:18 am   Permalink

You can't reason with a Parrothead.

 
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jamaica joe
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Posted: 2011-07-19 11:17 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-07-19 10:11, bigbadtikidaddy wrote:
really? this is still going on? please lock this thread, delete it, bury it, and salt the earth.


Funny how you keep coming back on here. Must something about the caribbean keeps drawing you back in.("Every time i think I'm out, they keep pulling me back in")


    
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jamaica joe
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Posted: 2011-07-19 11:21 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-07-19 10:18, Chuck Tatum is Tiki wrote:
You can't reason with a Parrothead.


Hey chuck the ___ What is your major malfunction,every post you make has something shitty in it.Please pipe down the adults are trying to have a conversation.


    
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