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Epoxy!? What is best for outdoor use?
Hula Dog
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Joined: Aug 06, 2011
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Posted: 2011-11-04 06:14 am   Permalink

I've been navigating through Tiki Central for months, admiring all the incredible work and collecting ideas for my own outdoor tiki room.

I've spent months collecting ideas and planning the construction of my room and now I'm just about ready to begin construction.

I do have a question that I'm hoping someone can help me out with.

My tiki room will be outdoors, located here in So. California. The bar top I have planned will be partially exposed to the outdoor elements.

My plan was to use a clear epoxy to weather proof the underlying wood and give it that shiny durable bar top feel.
I wanted to use clear epoxy because the plan is to have some pin striping and murals painted on the wood, that I want exposed.

I've done some research and it looks like the majority of expoxy's will turn yellow and discolor when exposed to direct sunlight, which I would like to try and avoid.

What have others used here to protect your bar tops? Is there something else that would work better?

I thank you in advance and I just can't wait to get this thing constructed.

Thanks!


 
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Tiki Zen
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Joined: Mar 15, 2007
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From: Too far from the beach Bowling Green, KY
Posted: 2011-11-04 11:01 am   Permalink

I am curious to see what is suggested. I've also read that epoxy, particulary two-part bar-top epoxy, is not UV stable and will yellow or fog. I've used spar urethane, but found that it has to be re-coated frequently.

 
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VampiressRN
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From: Sun City Lincoln Hills (NorCal)
Posted: 2011-11-04 11:30 am   Permalink

What about a marine urethane?

 
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WestADad
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Joined: Mar 31, 2009
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From: Tornado Alley
Posted: 2011-11-06 4:24 pm   Permalink

Valspar McCloskey Man O'War spar marine varnish is what I use here in the Midwest. Stuff is tough as nails.


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Hula Dog
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Posted: 2011-11-08 10:33 am   Permalink

Thanks WestADad.... I'll check it out.

I'm assuming that it dries clear and being marine grade, I'm hoping it can stand up to the elements?

Thanks again!


 
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WestADad
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Posted: 2011-11-08 11:36 am   Permalink

Yep, it's clear when dry. Many coats may darken a little but it's negligible to my eye. It's not for constant water contact or anywhere you might walk.

I use it on doors, outdoor furniture and crafts. Good stuff!

Good luck on your project and maybe you'll show us some pictures??

Chris
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Tai-Pan
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Joined: Oct 18, 2011
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From: Santa Cruz, CA
Posted: 2011-11-13 2:59 pm   Permalink

Are you trying to just finish the wood?
Or do you want a thick layer of clear floated on top?


 
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Hula Dog
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Posted: 2011-11-14 06:47 am   Permalink

I wanted the thick layer of clear floating on top.

I was just reading yesterday that if you put down a layer of epoxy and then once that's dry, add a few coats of high grade marine varnish, the marine varnish should be sufficient to protect against UV and other elements.

Has anyone tried this?


 
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Tai-Pan
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From: Santa Cruz, CA
Posted: 2011-11-14 4:50 pm   Permalink

I've never tried that. It might work. You'd still have
To make sure that the varnish coat was maintained.

I assume that the bar-top isn't going to be in full sun.

I've seen clear marine gel-coat built up pretty thick.
It won't yellow from UV. But I don't know how it would
hold up as a bar top.


 
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Alefoot
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Joined: Oct 05, 2011
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Posted: 2011-11-14 5:54 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2011-11-14 06:47, Hula Dog wrote:
... put down a layer of epoxy and then once that's dry, add a few coats of high grade marine varnish, the marine varnish should be sufficient to protect against UV and other elements.

It's done a lot in home boat building; stripper canoes etc. Expect to need to apply lots of coats, not just a few, and be prepared for annual scuff and recoat. IMO, probably best to go with a traditional spar varnish rather than a polyurethane, since the polys are a pain for touch-up.


 
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TikiMeplus3
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Posted: 2011-12-03 10:16 pm   Permalink

I have used the two part epoxy ( bar top ) resin. Keep in mind im in michigan BUT the product is awesome and I have pics of my bar top so you can see what the finished product looks like. The product works great and is pretty easy to use, basically have the bar top level, mix and pour and remove air bubbles with a hand held propane torch, cover and let dry. My problem here was that THIS PRODUCT CAN NOT FREEZE! So guess what happened my first winter, it cracked and broke and had to throw it away, I was bummed,
I now have a concrete bar top with broken glass and shells as accent pieces and fiber optic lights to bring interest to the whole project, it looks awesome I must say. I dont have pics here but should ad some.
Im sure for you it will be awesome to use the epoxy, you can ad stuff under it to personalize your bar top, so good luck.


 
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