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Is forum activity decreasing?
AceExplorer
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From: Deep in the Jacksonville Florida jungle.
Posted: 2018-02-26 08:35 am   Permalink

I don't think we really have anything to worry about as long as this system stays up and running. (A number of us send Hanford a few bucks every year, but probably not what it really costs though...) Those who need and enjoy Facebook will use it. Others, who appreciate and who recognize what TC offers and "how" it offers it, will use it in addition to Facebook. But on the other hand too high of a message volume would be (and has been at times) a problem for me. This site is manageable on a daily or every-other-day basis.

The pendulum could swing back here at any time. But "less is more" if we write meaningful stuff. There were periods where there was some fluff on a daily basis. From that point it has gotten better here. The more transactional stuff which wasn't so deep has pretty much gone to Facebook, although there are some fine conversations to be had there as long as you're ok with them vaporizing into the ether at some not-too-distant point.

I think updated board/system software could help us, but that's pure speculation. I'm mostly fine with how it is but would love to be able to post photos from my smartphone, plus a few other things with how URLs and links to photos are encapsulated and not interpreted well by my email clients.

As others have said, there is great information stored here and its searchable.


 
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Prikli Pear
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Joined: Jan 04, 2017
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From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted: 2018-02-26 09:33 am   Permalink

My daughter looked in on me the other day and was astonished to recognize Tiki Central as the exact same message board software NeoPets was using a decade ago before it shuttered. The big trouble with upgrading the TC infrastructure (aside from cost) is how to port the existing content over to a new system? There are a lot of IT guys in tiki and I don't pretend to be one of them, but I know from past experience that smooth transitions are akin to unicorns.

TC continues to serve a role--especially to newcomers--and I find the old-school forum style kinda endearing.
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AceExplorer
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From: Deep in the Jacksonville Florida jungle.
Posted: 2018-02-26 10:23 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2018-02-26 09:33, Prikli Pear wrote:
...and I find the old-school forum style kinda endearing.



Good point, and we're all fans of retro stuff, right? You made me think about it for a moment and then laugh.


 
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TabooDan
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Joined: Jul 18, 2004
Posts: 680
From: Tiki in a Crowsnest, AB., Canada
Posted: 2018-02-27 9:26 pm   Permalink

Like Ace and a few others have said, to get images off these crappy phones would be it.
I think this place would significantly see a huge increase in useage if that changed on here. Everyone wants things faster and quicker and easier that I think there would be a huge change here and a lot of people would come back or start posting here.

I myself have got 50 pics on my hated phone that would be great on here. I'm a history guy mainly but would love to see some of the images that people have found and have on their devices. I don't have Facebook or any of that other crapola but I appreciate the ease and the communities that seem to be on those networks. For some people it's even a must to have.

That being said, What would it do to TC? I do not want this great place to change that much. Just want to see what else is out there.
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Beachbumz
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Joined: Jan 09, 2008
Posts: 1097
From: Kihei, Maui
Posted: 2018-02-27 11:08 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2018-02-25 15:38, Thortiki wrote:
I still com here on a regular basis to see new posts. A lot of the old names here are gone, but a least the days of heavy negative posts have passed. Tiki seems to be a media & commercial bar theme flavor of the moment. Which I would agree with others hasn't translated into posting traffic here at TC. (-:



Always loved TC and still visit it every few days but got kinda burnt out on seeing all those negative posts here like a lot of others I'm sure...

I meet a lot of people at the shop I run here on Maui that tell me how crazy they are about Tiki once they see it.. Majority of them that I talk to got into Tiki probably within the last 1-3 years after a visiting Trader Sam's or one of the bars in there area where they live like Smuggler's Cove or Three Dot's and a Dash.. I always ask if they've seen or have the Book of Tiki and many have but many are like what's that? Also when it comes to Tiki Central, most haven't even heard of it.. I think Facebook and Instagram have a lot to do with it for sure. Still cool to see so many of the OG'ers still posting here, so much valuable information that you can't find anywhere else and plenty of Aloha.


 
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tikiskip
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Joined: Nov 26, 2005
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Posted: 2018-02-28 03:41 am   Permalink

"Everyone wants things faster and quicker and easier"

Damn as a old guy who used to have to... Buy film, take pics, take film to lab, wait a week for processing, pic up photos, take them manually to show other people or even mail to other people to show them, and you needed to get reprints to send pics if you wanted to send photos.
Plus you used to bracket your photos (Take 5 photos just to get one good one)Now you see it right after you take it.

I will say this LOTS of the pictures of "tiki" you see on Google images and other search engines Tiki images even instagram images came from here on TC as they are mine and that is the only place I post em.

Wow, just damn, for a generation that wants things to be "faster" it sure does take a lot of time to get your "fast" food or any other work done these days.

Sorry, old man rant you will be here one day.


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hiltiki
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Joined: Jun 10, 2004
Posts: 4066
From: Reseda, calif.
Posted: 2018-02-28 10:19 am   Permalink

http://imbibemagazine.com/home-tiki-bar-adrian-eustaquio/

Imbibe Magazine had a nice article here about how to decorate your home tiki bar by one of our old friends on TC, however no mention of Tiki Central anywhere.
We have been forgotten.


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AceExplorer
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From: Deep in the Jacksonville Florida jungle.
Posted: 2018-02-28 3:07 pm   Permalink

Interesting, and sad at the same time, that an article which starts out trying to inspire others omitted such a major resource. But Facebook got mentioned and it has NO repository of past and present tiki bar builds. Very strange.

Paul Clarke, who wrote the article, and Adrian, who is featured, both know of Tiki Central. So I wonder what they were thinking when they decided not to mention Tiki Central which is arguably the best resource on the web for home tiki bar builds.

But there is good news -- all our stuff is indexed in search engines and people who are looking will find us. The Book of Face can make no such claim for their short-term threads. Neener, neener...


 
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Scott McGerik
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From: South St Paul, MN/Minnesota
Posted: 2018-02-28 3:37 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2018-02-26 08:35, AceExplorer wrote:
A number of us send Hanford a few bucks every year



Thank you! I've been meaning to become a subscribing member for years but your post prompted me to finally make the commitment.

Quote:

On 2018-02-28 15:07, AceExplorer wrote:
Interesting, and sad at the same time, that an article which starts out trying to inspire others omitted such a major resource. But Facebook got mentioned and it has NO repository of past and present tiki bar builds. Very strange.

Paul Clarke, who wrote the article, and Adrian, who is featured, both know of Tiki Central. So I wonder what they were thinking when they decided not to mention Tiki Central which is arguably the best resource on the web for home tiki bar builds.



I noticed the same lack of mention of Tiki Central. At one level, I'm annoyed at the lack of attribution Tiki Central could get but does not. At another level, I like that Tiki Central is not mainstream. I wish, however, that all tikiphiles would find it and not get sucked into the hole that is facebook.


 
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AceExplorer
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From: Deep in the Jacksonville Florida jungle.
Posted: 2018-02-28 3:42 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2018-02-28 15:37, Scott McGerik wrote:
...I like that Tiki Central is not mainstream.



During my first 4 or 5 years here, there were times when there were several hundred "fluffy" posts a month here. Now we post less and we say much more.

Glad to hear you're going to contribute - all this fun is only one small bar tab per year.

Edit: Added "a month" to make my statement make more sense. Duh...

[ This Message was edited by: AceExplorer 2018-02-28 15:43 ]


 
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uncle trav
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Joined: Apr 27, 2005
Posts: 2282
From: Kalamazoo
Posted: 2018-02-28 4:18 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2018-02-28 03:41, tikiskip wrote:
"Everyone wants things faster and quicker and easier"

Damn as a old guy who used to have to... Buy film, take pics, take film to lab, wait a week for processing, pic up photos, take them manually to show other people or even mail to other people to show them, and you needed to get reprints to send pics if you wanted to send photos.
Plus you used to bracket your photos (Take 5 photos just to get one good one)Now you see it right after you take it.

I will say this LOTS of the pictures of "tiki" you see on Google images and other search engines Tiki images even instagram images came from here on TC as they are mine and that is the only place I post em.

Wow, just damn, for a generation that wants things to be "faster" it sure does take a lot of time to get your "fast" food or any other work done these days.

Sorry, old man rant you will be here one day.





Amen Skip!!! I’m right there with ya. I still take film pictures and wait for them.


 
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tikiskip
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Joined: Nov 26, 2005
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Posted: 2018-02-28 4:55 pm   Permalink

As for history's sake this new computer age can also kill the photos.
Nobody prints out photos, well very few.

Do you think all this tiki central stuff will be here in 50 years?
Or even the rest of the internet info and photos.

There would be no book of Tiki if not for the old photos and postcards ect, and heck they almost never make a postcard these days.

And you can't beat a Cibachrome print, most here don't know what those are.

Got a E Christmas card this year, those blow!
But hey they are quick and easy.
What's worse than a picture of your family on your xmas card, an E card with your damn family on it.

The computer age was doing good and adding to many things and then it started going to far taking the fun out of it until the need to make money off every site and search you do took over.

People need to think now about 50 years from now and leave hard copy tiki stuff for the next wave (if there is one) of tiki to find.

Tiki central may not be here.


 
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Prikli Pear
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Joined: Jan 04, 2017
Posts: 561
From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted: 2018-02-28 9:20 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2018-02-28 16:55, tikiskip wrote:
As for history's sake this new computer age can also kill the photos.
Nobody prints out photos, well very few.



Bingo! My wife is a professional photographer, and one of her soapbox issues is that people don't print out hardcopy photos. USB drives and CD-Rs get lost or damaged or corrupted. Files on harddrives get deleted. They're misplaced and lost. And seriously, nobody sits down at the computer and regularly flips through photo files. Print them out and put then in an old-fashioned photo album.

As far as Tiki Central goes, there's two other factors at play: 1) TC resizes images to something like 400 pixel width, max, and 2) all web images are 72 or 96 dpi, which looks great on the screen, but is way too low resolution for a quality print. The interwebz are good for many things, but long-term archiving of print-quality images ain't one of them.
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2018-03-01 07:16 am   Permalink

Just think of the Ansel Adams photos that are say 100 years old that would not last.
And they documented early America, Heaven knows if those photos would have ever been taken in this "damn that sure is a pain in the a$$ and a lot of work" society.

Heck he took that large format camera up and down mountains and deserts.

Try to make a 6x4 foot Gelatin Silver print with a digital photo today.

The great Ansel Adams would often say that his negatives were “the score” and the print was “the performance.” And one of his most famous “performances” of all time is Moonrise over Hernandez

We got no negatives, just thumb drives.
And a computer is thought to be out of date in three or four years today.

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tikitube
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Joined: Apr 25, 2017
Posts: 260
From: Ozark Underwater Cliffs
Posted: 2018-03-01 07:20 am   Permalink

I've gotten accustomed to the photo upload thing, and its easy enough now. If I want bigger photos I just host them offsite and embed them here.

The *only* thing I'd still like to see (unless it exists and I missed it) is a better way to follow which threads I have replied to, not just the ones I started myself. I can't always pop on here daily so sometimes discussions get buried and I forget that I had commented on them.


 
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