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anybody have a good non-alcoholic substitute for rum?
thePorpoise
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Posted: 2012-02-23 7:54 pm   Permalink

I know, i know, it's tiki heresy, but I've given up cocktails for Lent, and it occurred to me that I might at least be able to enjoy the flavors of my favorite tiki drinks (esp., navy grog) if I can only come up with a workable non-alcoholic susbtitute for the rums.

I understand that there are pure and artificial rum extracts out there, but the McCormick's brand that is readily available has a high alcohol content, which rules it out.

any ideas?

I was thinking coca-cola with a little molasses added might work for dark rum...


 
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CincyTikiCraig
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Posted: 2012-02-23 8:02 pm   Permalink

Have you checked out any of the 'virgin' (N/A) drinks in Beachbum Berry's books? Personally, I'm giving up bourbon, scotch, rye, brandy & beer for Lent. That pretty much leaves rum.....



 
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gabbahey
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Posted: 2012-02-23 8:41 pm   Permalink

My wife is pregnant so I've had some experience trying to virginize some tiki drinks. The best substitute I have found is Perrier mineral water. I sub it ounce for ounce. It has a slight bitter taste that helps cut some of the sweetness. You also need to adjust the honey/rock candy syrups to get a good balance.

I also second the idea to utilize beachbum's NA drinks. The mint squash is the best - I can post a recipe if you need. The best thing I can say is that it doesn't taste like anything is missing. It is a great drink.

gabbahey


 
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Trader Tom
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Posted: 2012-02-23 8:46 pm   Permalink

Monin puts out a "Caribbean Rum" flavored syrup. Nothing will be a perfect substitute for rum, itself, but you might give it a shot.

 
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MadDogMike
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Posted: 2012-02-23 8:47 pm   Permalink

Just a thought, how about heating the rum to evaporate off the alcohol? The boiling point of ethyl alcohol is 172F, perhaps at that temp is would boil of the alcohol without boiling of the flavor or the water. You could add purified water afterwards to bring it back to it's original volume. Safety would be an issue too.

PS - no fair standing over the pan to inhale the fumes
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Trader Tom
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Posted: 2012-02-23 8:47 pm   Permalink

Monin puts out a "Caribbean Rum" flavored syrup. Nothing will be a perfect substitute for rum, itself, but you might give it a shot.

 
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The Blue Kahuna
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Posted: 2012-02-23 8:57 pm   Permalink

Easy Tom . . .

 
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Posted: 2012-02-23 8:59 pm   Permalink

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thePorpoise
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Posted: 2012-02-23 9:02 pm   Permalink

Tom, best i can tell the Monin product is not available in US market...

 
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thePorpoise
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Posted: 2012-02-23 9:03 pm   Permalink

Gabby, that sounds cool if you don't mind...

 
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Trader Tom
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Posted: 2012-02-23 9:30 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2012-02-23 21:02, thePorpoise wrote:
Tom, best i can tell the Monin product is not available in US market...



I've bought it here:

http://www.surfaslosangeles.com/about

They have a wide range of Monin syrups you don't commonly see at brick-and-mortar stores. It's a great place to get lost in. Sort of a gourmet cooking supply warehouse...

I used the rum syrup to make some mocktails for my 4-year-old.

Again, I'm not prepared to give up rum, but you might try it in a mocktail and see what you think.

Sorry about the double post earlier.


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gabbahey
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Posted: 2012-02-23 9:36 pm   Permalink

Lemon Mint Squash

1 1/2 oz lemon mint syrup*
4 oz club soda
Dash Angostura Bitters (I left these out for the wife and it was still great)

*Lemon Mint Syrup (1 Pint)
Simmer 1 cup sugar, 1 cup lemon juice, the grated rind of 4 lemons, and 50 fresh mint leaves over medium heat. Remove from heat and cover for 15 minutes. Strain into a bottle through a fine mesh sieve. Keeps 2 to 4 days.

I just realized I used lemon zest when I made it - not sure if that is what he means by rind. I have also adjusted the recipe at times to make more or less syrup and it was fine.

Not as complex as some drinks but I really like it.



Also try the navy grog (my favorite too) with mineral water. With bitters, it is a pretty good NA drink.

gabbahey


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Cammo
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Posted: 2012-02-23 10:01 pm   Permalink

Does commercially available rum flavoring have alcohol (or very much alcohol) in it?

Cause you could actually make up something pretty close with the rum flavoring; try the cake dept at your grocery.

I bet some of these supposed experts could be fooled by it... I'll have to try this sometime...


 
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gabbahey
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Posted: 2012-02-23 10:01 pm   Permalink

Edited for double post

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CincyTikiCraig
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Posted: 2012-02-23 11:10 pm   Permalink

I'm fully prepared for my Lenten sacrifice. Only sugar cane based beverages for me.




 
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