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best rums for the perfect navy grog
CincyTikiCraig
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Posted: 2012-04-03 10:44 pm   Permalink

My favorite Navy Grog (the one that I am drinking at this very moment) is an amalgamation of Trader Vic's & Don The Beachcomber's recipes:

.75oz Lime Juice
.75oz White Grapefruit Juice
1oz PR/VI White Rum (Brugal, Cruzan)
1oz Jamaican Dark (Coruba, Myer's)
1oz Demerara Rum (ElDo12, LH80)
1oz Honey Syrup
1/4oz Allspice Dram (St Elizabeth, Bitter Truth, Berry Hill)

Since Pusser's is a blend of five West Indian rums, primarily Jamaican & Demerara rums, it might make an interesting and tasty single rum Navy Grog. Those of you with Pusser's in your bar-how about some first hand reports from the field??!


 
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mamelukkikala
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Posted: 2012-04-04 09:04 am   Permalink

I make my Navy Grog with Havana Club añejo blanco, Appleton extra, and El Dorado 12 y.o. Those three make such a perfect flavor profile that I don't even bother experimenting with this drink anymore. It can't get any better.

 
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Dapuma1
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Posted: 2012-04-05 09:47 am   Permalink

Thanks so much everyone for your assistance with narrowing down the ingredients for the navy grog

I generally like honey mix in my drinks so i believe i will go that route and go with Coruba over the Meyers

Will report back at the start of May with how the drink went over at the party - April is for hitting the gym hard and getting in pool shape





 
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Dapuma1
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Posted: 2012-04-05 10:16 pm   Permalink

Oh one other questions specifically for this drink

I only have 1/4 of a bottle of LH 80 left - am I better off buying another 151 and adding the 22.6oz of water to it or just getting the ED 12 year (not going to even mess with the 5 year the $$ difference isn't that much to me


 
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CincyTikiCraig
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Posted: 2012-04-06 10:46 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2012-04-05 22:16, Dapuma1 wrote:
Oh one other questions specifically for this drink

I only have 1/4 of a bottle of LH 80 left - am I better off buying another 151 and adding the 22.6oz of water to it or just getting the ED 12 year (not going to even mess with the 5 year the $$ difference isn't that much to me



To me, it depends on which of these rums you have access to and how much they cost. The lucky bums living in Florida are paying $19.99 for ElDo12, where I was mail ordering ElDo5 and paying $25+ with shipping (ElDo isn't sold in my neck of the woods). Once LH151 returned to the market I can buy it locally for $25, and by diluting it down to 80 proof the net bottle cost for 750ml of 80 proof LH comes out to something like $13.25.

Then there's the issue of flavor. To me (and YMMV of course), the "diluted" LH beats the ElDo12 in terms of flavor; there's simply more flavor, more spice, more smokiness, etc in the "diluted" LH80. One caveat is that you need to follow the suggestions that Ed Hamilton outlined about the right way to add water to the LH151 to end up with a good end product:

http://www.ministryofrum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5778

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TikiSan
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Posted: 2012-04-06 6:38 pm   Permalink

Where do you get fresh White Grapefruit?

Nearly every store here in Southern California only sells pink grapefruit.
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The Blue Kahuna
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Posted: 2012-04-06 7:07 pm   Permalink

For that matter, where do you get 'fresh' white grapefruit juice in SMALL cans? I'm forever tossing out three-quarters-full 64oz bottles of the stuff! Even I, a certified f---in' boozer (FB for short), certified by Aloha Current, can't drink enough navy grogs to finish a bottle in a timely manner . . . think I'll have a drink now

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CincyTikiCraig
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Posted: 2012-04-06 7:18 pm   Permalink

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On 2012-04-06 18:38, TikiSan wrote:
Where do you get fresh White Grapefruit?

Nearly every store here in Southern California only sells pink grapefruit.




That's a tough one. Here in the Midwest, white grapefruit has been plentiful of late, and it's some of the biggest, juiciest grapefruit that I've seen in years. I understand that it's hard to come by in parts of the country however. You could buy bottled white grapefruit juice (such as Ocean Spray), but you really lose something when you don't use fresh juice. I've mixed bottle white grapefruit juice with some fresh squeezed pink or red juice at times when I haven't been able to find any white grapefruit with moderate success. If you have a specialty store that sell exotic fruit on your area you might look there. Good luck.


 
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Mr. NoNaMe
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Posted: 2012-04-06 8:42 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2012-04-06 19:07, The Blue Kahuna wrote:
where do you get 'fresh' white grapefruit juice in SMALL cans?



FWIW, if it is sold in a can or bottle it is usually a year old before it makes it into the can/bottle. At least that is how it works with orange juice. OJ is flavorless for its year long billion gallon vat storage. Just prior to "bottling" they add the "North American" flavor packets.

You can go to Smart and Final and get 6oz cans of white grapefruit juice.
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Dapuma1
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Posted: 2012-04-06 9:40 pm   Permalink

I am in AZ and i very rarely find white grapefruits only pink (which is very aggravating) when i was in the midwest there were white only for the most part

figured i would special order them if needed - last time i used the white ocean spray - which worked fine but isn't really what i wanted to use

friend has a white grapefruit tree but not sure if they will be in season when i need them


 
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Dapuma1
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Posted: 2012-04-06 10:06 pm   Permalink

i cannot get LH locally nor and i can get Dorado 12y locally sometimes (it is out around me now) so i have to make a mail order regardless

the 12y on the mail order seems like it is going to be around 25 - the shipping is kind of irrelevent because i have to get some pisco and bonded applejack so not a big deal there

it is hard to find someone who carries Coruba Rum / laird's bonded 100 proof / LH 151 or ED 12y / and Pisco Campo de Encanto / and marie brizzard creme de cacao

i believe that combo is impossible due to distribution but i am scouring the net heh


 
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thePorpoise
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Posted: 2012-04-07 11:17 am   Permalink

try your local Asian groceries- they may have fresh fruits and canned/bottled juices not available at the chain groceries...

I've actually used mango juice with a splash of lemon before as a sub for the grapefruit and it was very suitable for navy grog. i've also subbed guava for grapefruit- again, a great navy grog.

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The Blue Kahuna
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Posted: 2012-04-07 11:46 am   Permalink

. . . and my favorite Navy Grog is always the one that happens to be in my hand at the moment . . .


 
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The Blue Kahuna
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Posted: 2012-04-07 1:50 pm   Permalink

Okay, I'm having the hybrid Navy Grog above, with Orange Clover Honey Mix, and a 1/4 oz of STE Dram, Myers, LH151 & Cruzan White . . . very tasty, had to let the ice melt a bit though, that STEDram is a potent potable! Wish I had some Coruba, I'd like to compare betwixt Myers.

 
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mamelukkikala
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Posted: 2012-04-07 2:24 pm   Permalink

I have a hard time believing you guys can't find fresh white grapefruits, and you live in America! I live in Finland, which is a cold country in the middle of nowhere, and only the smallest grocery stores are lacking in their fruits. Other than that, almost every modest sized store has them. The biggest ones have all kinds of cool stuff, everything from guava to lychee. Never has there been a moment when I couldn't find a simple grapefruit. Odd. Maybe it's because the EU is forcing european countries to buy stuff from overseas.

 
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