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Don Tiki Does Disney - Los Angeles Dec 20 2012 |
lucas vigor
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From: "I've chopped my way through real jungle
|  Posted: 2012-12-22 12:42 pm Permalink
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On 2012-12-22 10:23, TheClamsCasino wrote:
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On 2012-12-21 21:01, lucas vigor wrote:
I want to ask Clams Casino what exactly is so spontaneous about musicians who create all their stuff on a computer, and then hire ringers to perform it? If that's the case, can't ANYBODY do it? What then, makes it special?
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Who said anything about creating stuff on a computer? Where did that come from? My criticism of the show has nothing to do with DT's musicianship; their place in the pantheon of exotica or anything else. It comes simply from MY viewing and listening experience- which to me, was of watching a band that is so well-rehearsed and has done their show so many times that it feels like a Vegas act. I am comparing that to Tiki Joe's Ocean @ Damon's (just an recent example) where there was interaction with the audience, a sense of freshness and a overall feeling of enjoying themselves and sharing that enjoyment with the audience. That's what makes it special to me. Sure, the venues were massively different and that itself may change the dynamics of the experience, but I felt that I was just "there" for Don Tiki and I was "involved" for Tiki Joe's.
I didn't get anything more out of Don Tiki's live show than I get out of listening to their recordings. To me, that makes all the difference in the world. Maybe that's just me. I certainly will still enjoy listening to them in the future, but I most likely won't be making a return visit to their live show if tickets are 50 a pop.
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Well, I probably would agree that disney hall might not be the perfect venue for a band like Don Tiki....and if you are basing your enthusiasm gap on a smaller, intimate show compared to a large concert hall experience....then I can see that...what I was disagreeing with was that I assumed you were saying one band was "far better" then the other....
WHO IS DON TIKI?
South Seas fantasies beckon with the neo-exotica group, Don Tiki. They draw inspiration from the original Mid-Century masters of the exotica sound, Martin Denny, Arthur Lyman and Les Baxter and bring their evocative music into the 21st Century. In fact, Denny gave the band his seal of approval when he played on two tracks on their 1997 debut album, The Forbidden Sounds of Don Tiki. Further deepening Don Tiki’s authenticity is its percussionist and bird caller, Lopaka Colon, son of Augie Colon, who had the same role in Denny’s band.
Don Tiki is a creative collaboration of Lloyd “Fluid Floyd” Kandell and Kit “Perry Coma” Ebersbach. The band features Hawaii's top musicians with cumulative experience ranging from jazz fusion to world beat to the Honolulu Symphony to Waikiki Showrooms.
Don Tiki is:
Kit Ebersbach – keyboards, band leader
Lopaka Colon - congas, bongo, bird calls
Hai Jung - bass, vocals
Delmar deWilde – vocals
Sherry Shaoling – vocals, dancer
Abe Lagrimas, Jr. – vibraphone, percussion
Ryoko Oka - keyboards
Jason Segler - drums
Tim Mayer – reeds
Violetta Beretta – dancer
Lloyd Kandell – producer, congenial host
Distinguished Don Tiki Alumnae/Alumni:
Bass - Dean Taba, Miles Jackson, Steve Jones, Jon Hawes
Reeds - Aron Aronita, Rockford Holmes, Jim Howard, Emmett Yoshioka, Tim Tsukiyama
Harp - Sharene Lum
Keyboards - Judy Yoshioka, Jeannette Trevias, Jacob Kohler, Eileen Uchima
Percussion - Carlinhos de Oliveira, Fred Alcain, James Ganeko, Stacy Tangonan, Salaam Tillman, Mike Muldoon
Vibes - Noel Okimoto, Bill Wiley, Francis Hoʻokano
Vocals - Anita Hall, Rachel Gonzales, Imelda, Aaron Sala
Choreography + Costumes – Tunui Tully
Dancers - Alaana Singh, Capella Williams, Carissa Coleman, Lokelani Tully, Shylenn Hall, Tunui Tully, Willow Chang, Julie De Mello, Kahi De La Cruz, Peka Ibana, Michelle Izawa, Summer Jensen, Emi Hart, Pam Sandridge, Kamakoa Page, Nalani, Sky Perkins, Celeste Akeo
Video - Neal Izumi, Keith Kandell, Malcolm Mekaru, George Russell, Denise Van Ryzen
Extraordinary Special Guest Performers:
Sam Ahia - guitar
Martin Denny - piano
Harold Chang - drums
Augie Colon - percussion, bird calls
Teresa Bright - vocals
Jimmy Borges - vocals
Buddy Fo - vocals, percussion
Sammy Fo - dancer
Chant - vocal group
Jojo Ocampo - tango dancer
Frank Q. Orrall - percussion
Henry Kapono - vocals
Hoʻokena - vocal group
Mihana Souza - vocals
Jake Shimabukuro - ukulele
Smilin' Ben Vegas - vocals, guitar
That's taken from their website...as you can see, they have quite a pedigree....yet NO WIKIPEDIA PAGE! It's comparing filet mignon to those nasty hot dogs rolling around at 7-11, far as I am concerned.
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telescopes
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Joined: May 06, 2007
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From: Palm Springs
| Posted: 2012-12-22 6:03 pm Permalink
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I didn't get anything more out of Don Tiki's live show than I get out of listening to their recordings. To me, that makes all the difference in the world. Maybe that's just me. I certainly will still enjoy listening to them in the future, but I most likely won't be making a return visit to their live show if tickets are 50 a pop.
This is the problem as I see it. The artist that you saw at Damon will have most likely contributed nothing to the pantheon of exotica or this thing called escapism in the next 50 years. Enjoy them now if you will. There is nothing wrong with hearing a band like them play for the moment.
But groups such as Don Tiki or "well-rehearshed" for a reason and the tickets are 50 dollars a pop for a reason as well. Actually, I paid almost 200 for my 2 tickets at the front of the stage.
The reason we support these artist, even though we could just as well listen to a cd of their music, is that they are in fact artist that are contributing to something that is fundamentally important to what we love and without them, the genre we so dearly care about would be less.
Read my first post to get the complete concept. I traveled nearly 120 miles from Palm Desert to have drinks at Don the Beachcomber, Trader Vics, Cana all before seeing Don Tiki. How and the hell could I get that experience from a CD. To top it off, Violetta Beretta fogged up the glasses of a guy a few seats from me when she took them off his head and rubbed them on her chest - as flat as it was. No CD is going to top that type of interactive experience.
Lucas is so right when he talks about musicianship. How can you put interaction with the audience before quality of musicianship when your talking about a group playing the Disney Concert Hall. These guys truly define everything - and I mean everything we hold dear when we talk about the Book of Tiki or Tiki Oasis number 1. Anything after that, the mobs, the room parties, the drunkin nights at Tiki Ti, those are just for kicks. But Don Tiki - being a patron of the arts is an obligation.
Are Lucas and I the only ones who feel this way?
Lucas - next time we are both at Don the Beachcombers - I hear you don't get there often and I certainly don't as much as I would like to, let me buy you a drink.
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chrisandsarahb
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Joined: Aug 22, 2009
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From: Cucamonga, CA
| Posted: 2012-12-23 10:04 am Permalink
Lucas Vigor, did you attend this performance?
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telescopes
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Joined: May 06, 2007
Posts: 554
From: Palm Springs
| Posted: 2012-12-23 2:46 pm Permalink
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On 2012-12-23 10:04, chrisandsarahb wrote:
Lucas Vigor, did you attend this performance?
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Ahhh, duh - good question....
well, Lucas, did you?
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TheClamsCasino
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Joined: Mar 20, 2009
Posts: 67 | Posted: 2012-12-23 3:32 pm Permalink
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On 2012-12-22 18:03, telescopes wrote:
I traveled nearly 120 miles from Palm Desert to have drinks at Don the Beachcomber, Trader Vics, Cana all before seeing Don Tiki. How and the hell could I get that experience from a CD.
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Oh, I'm sure I would have seen things differently if I had made all those pit stops before the show as well.
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telescopes
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Joined: May 06, 2007
Posts: 554
From: Palm Springs
| Posted: 2012-12-23 5:41 pm Permalink
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On 2012-12-23 15:32, TheClamsCasino wrote:
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On 2012-12-22 18:03, telescopes wrote:
I traveled nearly 120 miles from Palm Desert to have drinks at Don the Beachcomber, Trader Vics, Cana all before seeing Don Tiki. How and the hell could I get that experience from a CD.
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Oh, I'm sure I would have seen things differently if I had made all those pit stops before the show as well.
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And that's why they call it Tiki...
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bigtikidude
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Joined: Aug 10, 2004
Posts: 8255
From: Anaheim,Ca.
| Posted: 2012-12-25 11:42 pm Permalink
Am I a bad/mean person, or do I have bad taste,
If I say I don't care for the music of either of the bands discussed.
To me, neither one give me the relaxing vibe of Exotica like the masters from yester-
year.
Jeff(btd)
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