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lucas vigor
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From: SOCAL
Posted: 2013-02-04 4:32 pm   Permalink

Thanks for all the tips!

For now, at least if I don't have to actually see them, it's better then nothing...hence the bamboo....

I have thought about going over there and actually talking to him, but based on the fact that he drives several huge F350 trucks all black with raiders and lakers stickers all over, plus cartoon stick figures of his family members on there, this is not the type of person I would normally approach or knock on their door.

I have called the police several times when the parties went till 2:00 am on a sunday night (I have to be up at 5 on weekdays, BTW) but they still won't stop. Bad weather or cops coming to the door just does not faze them one bit. I doubt me asking nicely would make a difference anyway.

Funny how things work out. I am a musician who love music and practices my instrument daily...with headphones. No one else is effected by the sound I make. Sometimes I rock out in my car, but you know? When I get to a stoplight I turn the music down so the drivers next to me don't have to listen to my jazz and classical.


 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2013-02-04 4:59 pm   Permalink

Bamboo will run!
The clumping Bamboo will also run.
Go to you tube and type in bambo barrier to get an idea of
what you need to do to stop this.
With ours we live in a place where its running is ok.
If you just mow it down in the spring when it pops up this will keep
it from growing in that area.
But it will run 360 from the spot you plant it, and it can throw shoots
out 10 15 feet from area you plant it.
It's creepy in the spring how it can grow 8 inches in one day.
I love bamboo and birds like to nest in it.
But if I lived in a place where we did not have the space don't think I would plant it.


 
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RevBambooBen
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From: Huntikington Beach
Posted: 2013-02-04 8:49 pm   Permalink

I worked on Art Snyder's Japanese style yard in Eagle Rock ( L.A) many, many, moons ago and he told me stories of his bamboo running down the street.... literally!!! It ran 3 drive ways down hill and popped up!!! His gardener would have to service those areas once a month. If you plant it Running or Clumping, use Bamboo Barrier.

Lucas, which way does the wind blow to or from your nightmare neighbors? Certain bamboo's will create a lot of fallen leaves. Enough to make a serious mess. Hopefully it blows his way.
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tikicoma
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From: wakinekona
Posted: 2013-02-04 11:45 pm   Permalink

Lucas, I've had some similar problems in the past. I would suggest finding out if where you live has a noise ordinance, in my town noise is limited at ten pm, and then calling the cops every night five minutes after the curfew if you hear his noise. Get other neighbors to do the same, It makes more of an impact on the cops if it's more than one person calling. Also call your local humane society and ask about the laws regarding incessantly barking dogs, it's likely that after a couple hours they can be cited and fined. Again get the neighbors involved.
If that doesn't work get a Fender 4x10 super reverb point it at their house crank it to ten and put some Hawaiian christian falsetto on and let it rip.
Bamboo? I love it and have many types, the Oldhamii is great and tall but can run 25 feet in my yard so like Ben said "get Bamboo Barrier or you'll be sorry" also next time I plant some I'll put cement blocks on the other side of the barrier going down at least 1 1/2 feet below the ground and at least a half a foot above the ground angling away from the bamboo because the runners will go under the barrier if it has no other option and will leap over the top too, but the "lip" will allow you to see the runner and cut it off.

Any more questions about bamboo growing or how to deal with meth dealing neighbors PM me.

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Atomic Tiki Punk
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From: Costa Misery
Posted: 2013-02-05 12:07 am   Permalink

I used to have all my Biker buddies over to the house, when the neighbors saw
100 or so Harley's parked in front, everyone was nice to me for years, but I wasn't a douche
who had parties past midnight, loud music or motorcycles running late into the night.

Now our Tiki parties that's when we torture the hood!


 
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Holler Waller
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From: NW TN
Posted: 2013-02-05 05:15 am   Permalink

Nice music LV, you play ALL of that? Relaxing

 
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Holler Waller
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Posted: 2013-02-05 06:49 am   Permalink

OK not ALL relaxing, but all good & squeetchy

 
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nui 'umi 'umi
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From: La Mirada Atoll
Posted: 2013-02-08 5:12 pm   Permalink

Here's a pic of my bamboo Alphonse Karr (bambusa multiplexa). LV, you can see its a "clumper" as the culms are no more than 12" or so from the "mother" The two on the right are from the summer of 2011. The other two came up sometime in August of 2012. Most bamboos grow most vigorously at summers end. I pretty much just enjoy my boo's til Sept. and then either stab the ones that have left the "mother" with a spade and remove them or dig em out and transplant them to a container-no problem giving em away. I have several black boo's that I keep in containers and they sit on a concrete patio slab. There are some clumping and running black bamboos. I was given these two so I'm taking no chances that these "could be runners" might escape their containers and invade my yard or my neighbors. I have them for"ornamental" value. Runners can easily burrow under a block wall or most driveways. On rare occasions some older boo's will flower and seeds could be spread wherever. There is not much you can do about this except maybe cut the flowers off before they go to seed. Anyway, you really just need to "maintain" your bamboo and everybody will be happy. Bamboo is just a big grass-not complicated at all. Don't let the many "myth's you hear scare you.
Cheers

2 yr. old stand, some culms have left the immediate area of the initial planting and will soon be detached,placed in a gallon container and live elsewhere.


black bamboo about 1 year old Apprx 1' dia. Leaf burn due to recent cold snap.



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black bamboo (differtent type) #-4 yr.s old 1/4: dia,



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lucas vigor
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Posted: 2013-02-08 7:32 pm   Permalink

Those are some nice specimens!

On the matterhorn ride at disneyland, they planted all the trees and foliage in cement pockets filled with a spongelike fake soil.

I am wondering if I should do the same. Dig a moat next to the wall, line it with cement. I wonder how deep it should be and how wide or far away from the wall, so that it could contain both the clumping and the other type of bamboo?


 
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GROG
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From: Tujunga
Posted: 2013-02-08 9:07 pm   Permalink

Don't forget what uncle Ben said.

Quote:

On 2013-02-04 14:27, RevBambooBen wrote:
Use "Bamboo Barrier" or you will be sorry.

It will bust through cement walls.



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GROG
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Posted: 2013-02-08 9:14 pm   Permalink

Damned Tiki Central double-post.

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nui 'umi 'umi
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From: La Mirada Atoll
Posted: 2013-02-08 9:31 pm   Permalink

I'd talk to an expert at the nearest arboretum or botanical garden. The experts at commercial nurseries are in the business of "selling" so caveat emptor. Quail gardens is kinda far (northern San Diego county ) but they are the best. Sherman gardens (Corona Del Mar/Newport Beach) has bamboo's but I dunno if they have a resident expert.
In the south bay there's southwest botanical gardens- I think it's at the western end of Lomita/Rolling Hills Estates.I hang out a lot at the L A county Arboretum (Arcadia) cuz the L A international Fern Society meets there and the arboretum has several people on staff who are quite knowledgeable regarding bamboo.
I am not an expert but I been messing with plants forever and bamboo for the past 12-15 years. Frankly, I do not believe in or use "barriers" I establish a "dmz" visually around the newly planted boo and remove anything that dares to enter that zone. I don't put running species in the ground. That being said if you ignore a "clumper"
for a few years, you're in for a surprise and a lot of huffing and puffing.
Go for it!
Btw, I mentioned the stands of timber bamboo at Hi-Times liquor. Check em out, very impressive particularly when you consider the relatively narrow space they're growing in . I just planted timber bamboo in an equally small area-I hope it does as well.


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nui 'umi 'umi
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From: La Mirada Atoll
Posted: 2013-02-08 10:27 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-02-04 10:57, Alii Tiki wrote:
Try checking out
http://www.bamboogiant.com/
they're in Santa Cruz area - and may be able to assist with your needs


Definitely some very good info at A T's suggested site.
Mahalo Alii


 
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AceExplorer
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From: Deep in the Jacksonville Florida jungle.
Posted: 2013-02-11 7:44 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-02-08 19:32, lucas vigor wrote:
On the matterhorn ride at disneyland, they planted all the trees and foliage in cement pockets filled with a spongelike fake soil.



Lucas, "spongelike fake soil" was never seen by me in any of the planters when I worked on and all over the Matterhorn. They used real soil and replenished it as needed. And although they did not plant any bamboo in the rockwork, the concrete did successfully contain the plant material. If anything grew too large to fit the visual perspective of the mountain, then they would trim or replace plant material as needed.

There is to this day quite a bit of bamboo in and around Jungle Cruise. Some of it is quite large. Not sure how they contain or control it.


 
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Holler Waller
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Posted: 2013-02-12 09:46 am   Permalink

On the bamboo side, do use a barrier, for my growing # I was told two foot down. Should've been further tho. It did get out.

 
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