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Trader Vic's Grog Concentrate-Aye or Nay?
The Blue Kahuna
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From: Points East & West
Posted: 2013-02-14 3:55 pm   Permalink

Just received and email from TV's offering the Grog concentrate. Disclaimer says this is not Navy Grog concentrate. What's the difference? What drinks use the Grog concentrate? Recipe for the Tiki Puka Puka (which is one of my favorites) included with purchase. I always thought the Tiki Puka Puka used the Navy Grog concentrate . . . for that matter I didn't know there were two Grog concentrates . . .

Buy? Avoid? What's the collective wisdom/advice?


 
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rixzantis
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Posted: 2013-02-14 5:52 pm   Permalink

I got the same email.
The disclaimer says it's not "Navy Grog Mix".
They use the "concentrate" to make those drinks at their restaraunts.


 
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Hakalugi
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Posted: 2013-02-14 8:24 pm   Permalink

Here's the full text from the TV website:

Quote:
Previously unavailable to the public. Available for a limited time. Trader Vic's Grog Concentrate. Our Signature Grog Concentrate is the Key ingredient in some of your favorite Trader Vic's Cocktail. Now you can make the Famous Navy Grog, or the sought after Tiki Puka Puka. DISCLAIMER PLEASE READ! THIS IS NOT NAVY GROG MIX, IT IS A GROG CONCENTRATE USED IN OUR RESTAURANTS. EACH ORDER WILL COME WITH A RECIPE FOR A TIKI PUKU PUKU AND NAVI GROG. THIS IS A CONCENTRATE ONLY 1/4 OZ. IS NEEDED PER DRINK. LIMITED TIME ONLY, NO RETURNS.



$30.00 for a three pack.
http://www.shoptradervics.com/collections/frontpage/products/trader-vics-grog-concentrate-3-pack

edit: out of stock, again. Link no longer works


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TropicDrinkBoy
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Posted: 2013-02-14 11:22 pm   Permalink

Absolutely get it! This is the one truly secret ingredient in two great Trader Vic drinks, the Tiki Puka Puka and Navy Grog. I've had the rare opportunity to purchase this in the past. I stock up but always regret I didn't buy more because it really isn't normally available. With the Grog Concentrate you can make Tiki Puka Pukas identical or better than what is served in the restaurant. Don't buy them all though because I need to get some more! Now you need to find a source of gardinias to float in the drink. Remember, taste is 70%-75% smell.

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croe67
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Posted: 2013-02-15 05:48 am   Permalink

Get 'em - the public can't usually buy them at all, so get them while you can.

A truly excellent Navy Grog isn't an easy drink to make & this Trader Vic's concentrate makes it WAY easier!!


 
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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From: Costa Misery
Posted: 2013-02-15 06:05 am   Permalink

So is this Trader Vic's "Allspice dram" syrup mix?
It looks like it.


 
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TropicDrinkBoy
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Posted: 2013-02-15 06:33 am   Permalink

In essence yes but I've yet to find a recipe to successfully recreate it from allspice liquor. It is unique. There was a navy grog mix that they used to sell at retail but it was very different. Three oz. of it was required to make a Tiki Puka Puka instead of 1/4 to 1/3 oz. and the result was different. If you haven't guessed yet the Tiki Puka Puka is one of my favorite Trader Vic drinks and I have had it many times at their restaurants. I hold it in high esteem, right up there with the 1934 Zombie. When made using the recipe in the Trader's 1972 bartenders guide it has nearly the same as 4 oz. of 80 proof so a limit of two please!

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Kill Devil
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Posted: 2013-02-15 06:51 am   Permalink

$30 is steep - I assume the unopened product has quite a shelf life??? Now that Chicago's TV is gone, this would be as close as I'd get. What rum(s) would pair up with this? 80 proof Demerara?

 
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GatorRob
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Posted: 2013-02-15 08:00 am   Permalink

Just placed my order. I doubt shelf life will be a problem. Most products of this nature have enough preservatives and stabilizers to keep them good for quite a long while.

 
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GentleHangman
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Posted: 2013-02-15 08:33 am   Permalink

I just placed my order for the 3-pack. $10. per bottle and $17.+ shipping - a little steep in my opinion as well but still, worth a try.
I wonder if they'll do the same for their Mai Tai concentrate?
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Trad'r Bill
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Posted: 2013-02-15 08:50 am   Permalink

Whoa, no way - I have a few bottles of this stuff (got a couple at the restaurant, and a couple more on eBay). Shelf life is not a concern... I've been using my open bottle for 3-4 years now. Get it while you can, tiki peeps - you won't be disappointed.

I was hoping they were also selling their Mai Tai concentrate (not the commercially available version) but nope...


 
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arriano
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Posted: 2013-02-15 10:52 am   Permalink

So if I'm doing the math correctly (and I was an English major so all bets are off), three 1 liter bottles would give you enough mix for more than 405 cocktails. And at $30 (plus $13 s/h) that's about 10 cents a drink (minus rum costs).
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Trad'r Bill
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Posted: 2013-02-15 12:06 pm   Permalink

Don't forget:
- grapefruit juice
- lemon juice
- lime juice
- rock candy syrup

The Rum Grog concentrate is only a syrup, not a complete mixer.


 
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Kill Devil
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Posted: 2013-02-15 12:35 pm   Permalink

OK,just pulled the trigger! Any other drink suggestions for using this stuff?

 
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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From: Costa Misery
Posted: 2013-02-15 1:41 pm   Permalink

Trad'r Bill, what are the ingredients listed & is it full of
High Fructose Corn Syrup like other TV mixers?

Thanks...


 
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