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Trader Vic's Grog Concentrate-Aye or Nay?
Little fragrant Tiare
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Posted: 2013-04-10 12:09 pm   Permalink

Forgot to say that i wrote about this topic on my blog - Navy Grog and Tiki Puka Puka - A taste test of grog mixers - http://www.amountainofcrushedice.com/?p=17557
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Dapuma1
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Posted: 2013-05-13 4:43 pm   Permalink

Are they still selling the grog concentrate?

 
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TropicDrinkBoy
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Posted: 2013-05-13 6:26 pm   Permalink

Check www.shoptradervics.com to learn the answer. While you're there pick up a 1939 style skull mug, much better than the previous cartoonish skull mug.

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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Posted: 2013-05-13 6:31 pm   Permalink

Has anyone compared this to B.G.Reynolds Don’s Spices #2 mix?


 
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Dapuma1
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Posted: 2013-05-14 2:58 pm   Permalink

I didnt see it on there so I wasn't sure if there was a different site, ugh

Is there any shelf like on that concentrate (if it ever comes up for sale again)

I will buy 20 if there is no shelf life


 
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Hale Tiki
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Posted: 2013-05-15 05:25 am   Permalink

Ugh. I wish they'd sell it again.

 
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TropicDrinkBoy
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Posted: 2013-05-15 6:10 pm   Permalink

ATP, I have B.G. Reynolds Don's Spices #2 (DS2) and I compared it to the Grog Concentrate (GC) last night at your suggestion. While they are similar, to me the DS2 is a thicker and sweeter syrup with a definite vanilla flavor. I don't (or maybe barely) taste vanilla in the GC. Finally, thr DS2 has a much less pronounced allspice flavor (1/2 - 1/3).

If the recipe calls for 1/4 oz. of the GC you may need to use 3/4 oz. of DS2. I paid $10 for a 12 oz. bottle of the DS2 and a 750ml (23+ oz.) bottle of the GC cost me from $7 to $12, depending on when and where I bought it. Given that one uses less GC per drink it is much cheaper than DS2, if you can find it.

Soon I'll taste test a DS2 Navy Grog vs. the GC version. I bet they will both taste pretty good!


 
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Posted: 2013-05-15 6:17 pm   Permalink

Thanks! TropicDrinkBoy


 
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sneakyjack
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Posted: 2013-05-16 05:20 am   Permalink

The Sarasota Trader vics GRILL - has the concentrate/ grog mix - Or did. They may be able to help in the purchase of a few or maybe someone in the area can provide assistance.

worth a call.

351 N Cattlemen Rd Sarasota, FL 34232
(941) 378-3900

http://tvislandbarandgrill.com/



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TropicDrinkBoy
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Posted: 2013-05-19 10:28 pm   Permalink

ATP, I made a Navy Grog substituting 3/4 oz. of Trader Tiki (B.G. Reynolds) Don's Spices #2 (DS#2) for the 1/4 oz. of Trader Vic's Grog Concentrate (GC) and it was fantastic! I used the following recipe:

3/4 oz. lime
3/4 oz. grape fruit juice
3/4 oz. DS#2
1/4 oz. rock candy syrup
1 oz. El Dorado 3 yr.
1 oz. Coruba
2/3 oz. Lemon Hart 151

I preferred it over the 1/4 oz. GC version. As I mentioned in a previous post the DS#2 is a thicker and sweeter syrup than the GC so maybe it was the sweetness that sold me. I'll have to try a sweeter TV grog concentrate version with maybe 1/3 oz. of GC as that might be closer to my DS#2 version. The DS#2 definitely brought some interesting flavors to the drink. Give it a try sometime and let me know what you think!


 
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Posted: 2013-05-20 12:27 am   Permalink

Interesting! The B.G. Reynolds mix is all natural sugar based & I was wondering
if it would have a better taste overall, unlike the HFCS in the Vics mix.


 
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TropicDrinkBoy
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Posted: 2013-05-20 09:14 am   Permalink

The flavors of the two syrups are similar in that they both contain allspice but other than that are quite different. Personally I can't attribute the differences between the two grogs to the HFCS vs. cane sugar.

It's good that B.G. Reynolds is more available than the Trader Vic franchise GC but I know of only one retailer in the San Francisco bay area (Cask) that carries the product line. For most it will be a mail order purchase. I also love their Orgeat syrup.


 
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TropicDrinkBoy
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Posted: 2013-06-01 5:06 pm   Permalink

I've been experimenting a bit more with the Navy Grog using the Grog Concentrate. My favorite recipe so far is a slightly modified version of the recipe supplied with the concentrate, inspired by my Don's Spices #2 version. It is sweeter and has a little more of the Grog Concentrate than the official version. It is as follows:

1 oz. lime juice
3/4 oz. grape fruit juice
1/3 oz. Grog Concentrate
3/4 oz. Rock Candy Syrup
1 oz. light rum (El Dorado 3 year)
1 oz. dark rum (Coruba)
2/3 - 3/4 oz. Lemon Hart 151

To me the official version is dominated by the grape fruit juice flavor. Any other Grog Concentrate owners care to share their favorite recipes?


 
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The Blue Kahuna
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Posted: 2013-06-03 5:27 pm   Permalink

Try this . . . you'll be in heaven . . .

juice of half lime
1 oz pineapple gomme syrup
.5 oz TV Navy Grog Concentrate
.5 oz Simple Syrup
1 oz El Dorado 3 yr White Demerara
1 oz El Dorado 5 yr Amber Demerara
1 oz LH151
2 dashes angostura bitters

very near the Smuggler's Rum Barrel . . .


 
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TropicDrinkBoy
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Posted: 2013-06-03 8:38 pm   Permalink

Will do Blue Kahuna! As of yesterday I had all those ingredients, including the Small Hand Foods Pineapple Gomme Syrup but I finished the El Dorado three year yesterday. I'll have to substitute Denizen which is an aged white that has a similar flavor.

 
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