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Am I doing this right? Regarding: Blending
Destro100
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Posted: 2013-04-12 05:20 am   Permalink

Hey Folks,

I'm in a bit of quandary. I've noticed that many recipes (especially from the Bum) involve adding crushed ice to a blender with other ingredients.

When I do this, my blender (basically) makes everything pretty smooth and the ice melts and becomes water. There are virtually no ice pieces left.

Is this the purpose? Do we blend with crushed ice - to add water to a drink and make it cold? Should the consistency of most drinks be smooth?

Is that why we add additional crushed ice to our glasses/mugs? To maintain the right temperature?

I'm slightly confused, as I'm quite familiar with traditional cocktails and I usually find the dilution(water) added through shaking is minimal; not like the 1-2 ounces of crushed ice I see being added to Tiki drinks in many blended recipes.

Thanks for the help!


 
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Q-tiki
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Posted: 2013-04-12 06:17 am   Permalink

Hi Destro,
I'm no expert, but I think a lot of those recipes call for a "flash" blend of no more than five seconds. I know what you mean because I have done the same thing where virtually no ice was left in the drink. Actually, I just made some traditional daiquiri's the other night and they had almost zero ice because I blended to long. Try blending for just two or three seconds. Just long enough to combine, yet not long enough to lose all the ice.

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Destro100
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Posted: 2013-04-12 06:33 am   Permalink

Thanks Q-Tiki,

Here's the problem - the recipes usually call for crushed ice to be placed in the blender. As the ice is already crushed, 2-3 seconds turns it into water; especially with my Ninja Blender.

If I put it for 1 pulse, then the drink is not really mixed; especially with ingredients like coconut cream or bananas.


 
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Q-tiki
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Posted: 2013-04-12 06:52 am   Permalink

You are right, Destro. They almost always call for crushed ice.

Have you tried mixing the ingredients with out the ice first, then adding for the "flash"? If your mixer is super powerful, that may be the way to go.



 
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littlegiles
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Posted: 2013-04-12 07:26 am   Permalink

The idea of adding the crushed ice to the blender was indeed to dilute the drink a bit. The addition of the water to the cocktail can help to release the scents and flavors of the ingredients. I think perhaps that your blender is more powerful than what they were using. Try cutting the time in half, pouring the cocktail into a shaker, quick shake to mix the ingredients and then pour into your glass. Or I would just purchase a cheap blender from the store to do cocktails in and save the Ninja for everyday kitchen use.

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happy buddha
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Posted: 2013-04-12 07:34 am   Permalink

The best thing is to use a top-down mixer, or a milkshake blade on your blender. I got one based on the advice of this forum & never looked back.

Also, if yr blender has diff settings, make sure it's just on 'blend'. Then pulse it on high for 5 sec or less.


 
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Destro100
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Posted: 2013-04-12 07:36 am   Permalink

I'm sorry - a bit confused - does that mean that the drinks should still have some crushed ice in it after blending? The texture should not be completely smooth?

 
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Swanky
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Posted: 2013-04-12 08:26 am   Permalink

First, make sure you add the ice last, just before you blend.

Do not turn it on blend or hit any of the buttons and let it whirl for any amount of seconds. If you are using a top down mixer, that can be okay for a few seconds. If you use a blender, no.

Here is how to do it with a blender:

Put all ingredients in the blender, adding crushed ice last. (I actually add everything but ice, set the pitcher on the blender and set it to the lowest setting of "Stir" for a couple of seconds, before adding ice.)

With ice in it, hit the button and stop. On mine, there is a "Pulse" button. Some have just a high or low switch. Hit it as short as possible.

Let it stop.

Hit it again.

Let it stop.

Hit is again.

Done.

You are just swirling that ice around. You are NOT maknig a slushy. Above I said hit it 3 times. You may even cut it to 2. See what works. You should still have recognizable crushed ice in the glass.

Do NOT run the blender for 5 seconds.

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Longboard
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Posted: 2013-04-12 10:06 am   Permalink

I agree with happy buddha, Milk shake blender is the key with crushed ice. I have a vintage Hamilton, that not only looks cool, but works like a champ.

And Swanky is right, Mix everything without the ice, than blend.



 
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thePorpoise
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Posted: 2013-04-12 10:21 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-04-12 07:36, Destro100 wrote:
I'm sorry - a bit confused - does that mean that the drinks should still have some crushed ice in it after blending? The texture should not be completely smooth?



could be wrong, but that's always been my understanding. always thought point of blender was making a drink that was to some degree "frozen."

in any event, i prefer my tiki drinks on the rocks anyhow, with the sole occasional exception being the Mai-Tai (which I sometimes make in a cocktail shaker).


 
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Limbo Lizard
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Posted: 2013-04-12 10:41 am   Permalink

I crush my ice well in advance (in a Lewis bag), put it back in the freezer. Let it get really cold and hard, again. You don't want your ice to be "warm" or "wet" - solid, but soft and only a little below the melting point.

As Swanky said, when using the blender, always add the ice last.

I seem to be able to run the blender 3 - 5 seconds, and end up with a very cold drink, proper dilution and consistency, and with a good bit of ice left. I think this is because, 1) I use ice that is fresh from the freezer and still very cold, and 2) I use lots of ice, so that the liquid is cooled to 32, before much of the ice warms to the melting point. If you're worried about using too much ice to fit the glass, you can always strain it, then dump in enough of the remaining ice to top off the glass. Too much ice is curable. Too little, and you have a cool (not cold), watery ruined mess.

(P.S. I got my "education" on ice in drinks, over 30 years ago, from the 1972 Trader Vic's Bartender's Guide, 'ICE', pages 25 - 26. Worth reviewing, if you have a copy at hand. It was my drink "bible", back in the pre-Grog Log days.
As I re-read it now, I note that his advice about julips and swizzles, in the last paragraph, is functionally correct. But his explanation reveals that ol' Vic wasn't much of a physicist. )

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Tonga Tiki
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Posted: 2013-04-13 04:30 am   Permalink

I was confused about this subject for quite awhile until I went to my first Beachbum Berry symposium. He used a Hamilton Beach top-down mixer and pulsed the drink 3 times. So when the recipe asks for a cup of crushed ice then blend....do it quickly and pulse away. Having crushed ice is the key and not crushing the ice while its in the cocktail is very important. This way your Zombie or whatever your in the mood for will come out great. I have found both of my mixers at garage sales for $5. Having 2 steel mixing cups comes in handy at parties also. Having an ice crusher is great and convenient. I use a Waring Pro I bought on eBay.



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Ebb Tide
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Posted: 2013-04-13 04:38 am   Permalink

Swanky, your advice solves issue I have been having lately. Switched to a vintage Oster ice crusher recently which is great but ice is a lot finer now, even at the coarse setting. A five second continuous blend dissolves it too much. Your recommended three short pulse hits make a perfect mix.

 
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happy buddha
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Posted: 2013-04-13 06:17 am   Permalink

Yes, Swanky is exactly right. That's what I meant by 'pulse for 5 sec or less'. Sorry if it wasn't clear. Five seconds on high on a regular blender will turned crushed ice to h2o.

For what it's worth, I often use an Osterizer chrome kitchen center. This comes w/ both types of blades (milkshake & ice crush) so you use up less counter space. It does the job pretty well imho


 
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Destro100
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Posted: 2013-04-17 05:01 am   Permalink

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for all the advice.

Let the intoxicating experimenting commence!


 
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