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Tiki Oasis 2013 - HulaBilly - Official thread
JOHN-O
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Posted: 2013-06-11 11:44 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-06-10 18:30, Tiki-ESP wrote:

Quote:

On 2013-06-10 15:30, JOHN-O wrote:

Hmmm... it would appear that both GROG and Tiki-ESP are self-censoring Hillybilly haters who take issue with the "derailment" of this year's Tiki Oasis.

If you're really serious about HULA-billy as a musical genre then go to this thread I started, otherwise HILL-billies in mid-century pop culture were Gol' durned FUN !!

Seriously though I think Hillbillies might share even more of a zeitgeist with Tiki than the past Oasis themes of "Spy" or "South of the Border". (Actually I don't even know what "zeitgeist" means but the Bigbro uses that word a lot).

Here's my reason... I think the backwoods disinhibition of Hillbillies resonated with middle class suburban L7's much in the same way the "modern primitive" appeal of Tiki did. Hillbillies were free from all of the uptight social conventions that pre-counterculture America had to adhere to. Hillbillies said whatever was on their mind, made their own moonshine, married their underaged cousins, and shot at those pesky revenuers.

I think that was part of the big appeal of the "Beverly Hillbillies"' which was one of the most successful sitcoms in television history, along with other popular rural themed comedies like "Green Acres", "Petticoat Junction", "Andy Griffith", and "Gomer Pyle".

And before the "Beverly Hillbillies"' there were "The Real McCoys" who hit the airways roughly around the same time Tikis starting popping up in "Polynesian" restaurants.

The Hillbilly craze was sweeping the nation !!



You take from the event what you will, or call it whatever you like. But seems disingenuous to the essence of the event when it is called a "Hulabilly" event, but yet a majority of the marketing, and posts here, are referencing the Hillybilly theme. These are distinctly two different words, with different meanings. Its like going into a restaurant that on the outside advertises as French cuisine, but once you are inside its serving Mexican, or vice versa.


Well as much as I hate to rely on Wikipedia to make a point, this is from their definition of Rockabilly...

"The term 'rockabilly' is a portmanteau of 'rock' (from 'rock 'n' roll') and 'hillbilly', the latter a reference to the country music (often called 'hillbilly music' in the 1940s and 1950s) that contributed strongly to the style's development."


Spike's definition of Hulabilly sways more towards Rockabilly incorporating Hapa Haole, Exotica, and Surf influences. The steel guitar is a major part of The Hula Girls' sound.

Otto's definition is a bit broader, refer to his take on the first post of this thread.

The challenge with "Hulabilly" is that as a musical style, there isn't an abundance of pop cultural iconography to uniquely represent the genre, aside from maybe "Blue Hawaii" Elvis. If anyone here can contribute other examples, then I encourage them to post on this thread.

HILL-billies on the other hand, were all over the place during the Pre-Tiki and Tiki eras as evident in film, television, and print. They were a unique pop cultural phenomena as reflective of the times as Spy, the "South of the Border" sound, and yes Tiki.

This broad umbrella or "connecting of the dots" is what makes Tiki Oasis so unique among all the different events.

It's also what makes it so much FUN !! C'mon, we need to think outside the box otherwise we're just gonna wind up with Viva Las Vegas (the event) in Aloha shirts.

Carry on, Cammo.


 
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sweetpea
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Posted: 2013-06-11 11:53 am   Permalink

gah, stop telling everyone the difference or all the good 50's "hulabilly" dresses I like and want to buy are gonna spike on
ebay and etsy, then just sit in closets after the "theme" party is over. Let em buy up the square dance dresses
from the 70's instead, and have a good time! hahahahaha
ps, I may have some dresses for sale soon if anyone needs Hillbilly wear.

who cares what people wear, and what category it is? I know I don't! As long as folks have fun, love the music and the art, make friends, and buy stuff, it seems that would be a successful Oasis. Right? Mr. Doodie and I are looking forward to a great time. So excited for all the bands.

See ya there!
Pea




 
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Posted: 2013-06-11 12:09 pm   Permalink

All this Hillbilly love is a direct result of inbreeding!
and brain damage from to much corn whiskey.....


 
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Cammo
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From: San Diego
Posted: 2013-06-11 3:00 pm   Permalink

Turtleburgers.

This is from the website of the band Southern Culture On The Skids, who'll be playing at an Oasis Near You.

They have a Home Cooking section, and I'm not saying I'm gonna make these babies at Oasis, but if anybody DOES MAKE THEM then RING THE DINNER BELL DORIS cause I'M HUNGRY!!!!!

Yep, that's genuine bacon weave:


(These are hamburger inside, but could it be done with real turtle meat?!?!?!? Anybody know? MadDogMike?)


 
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lunavideogames
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Posted: 2013-06-11 3:10 pm   Permalink

I think at least sea turtle is an endangered species so they cannot be hunted. I have been to many places, but I haven't seen any turtle meat on the menu.

EDIT: But those sure look tasty!!!

[ This Message was edited by: lunavideogames 2013-06-11 15:11 ]


 
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tikilongbeach
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Posted: 2013-06-11 4:00 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-06-11 15:00, Cammo wrote:
Turtleburgers.

This is from the website of the band Southern Culture On The Skids, who'll be playing at an Oasis Near You.

They have a Home Cooking section, and I'm not saying I'm gonna make these babies at Oasis, but if anybody DOES MAKE THEM then RING THE DINNER BELL DORIS cause I'M HUNGRY!!!!!

Yep, that's genuine bacon weave:


(These are hamburger inside, but could it be done with real turtle meat?!?!?!? Anybody know? MadDogMike?)




They look tastier than the bacon wrapped rattle snake I've eaten.


 
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Cammo
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Posted: 2013-06-11 5:47 pm   Permalink

You know, I'm not usually a big carnivore, but MAN THOSE LOOK EDIBLE!!!!

I'm thinkin... maybe there's some way to work in a Southern HulaHillybilly BBQ at Oasis, the hotel won't let us, but maybe off-site or just bring some to a room party, I don't know....

Hmmm.....


 
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bigtikidude
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Posted: 2013-06-11 6:03 pm   Permalink

Mmmmmmmmm
Nothin more Hula or Billy
Than BBQ Pig


 
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Cammo
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Posted: 2013-06-11 8:21 pm   Permalink

Looks pretty hard to find real Turtle Meat in California. Some kind o' superstition er somethin.

What about mixing smoked pork & beef as the 'guts' and slo-roasting these suckers on the BBQ til they stop squealin?

They could be made in Small, Medium and XXL sizes...


 
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creepykbear
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Posted: 2013-06-12 05:40 am   Permalink

Is the only way to get a mug to buy a VIP ticket? Or will there be mugs available at the event?

Any previews yet on what the mug is gonna look like this year?

Thanks!


 
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SandraDee
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Posted: 2013-06-12 07:59 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-06-12 05:40, creepykbear wrote:
Is the only way to get a mug to buy a VIP ticket? Or will there be mugs available at the event?

Any previews yet on what the mug is gonna look like this year?

Thanks!




Any extra mugs left over once the VIP/mug tickets have been accounted for they generally put them on sale at the Tiki Oasis merch booth starting at 6/7pm Friday night. They make an announcement over the speakers so you know when they are selling them.

Since the time 6pm or 7pm changes you can ask the people working the check-in booth on Friday morning at the Crowne Plaza when they will exactly be going on sale. Usually its the morning crew who gets this information first.

There is a preview somewhere....I want to say on Facebook but its been awhile since I remember seeing it.

And yes they always have mugs for sale

[ This Message was edited by: sandradee 2013-06-12 10:21 ]


 
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tikilongbeach
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Posted: 2013-06-12 08:28 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-06-12 05:40, creepykbear wrote:
Is the only way to get a mug to buy a VIP ticket? Or will there be mugs available at the event?

Any previews yet on what the mug is gonna look like this year?

Thanks!



Otto posted a greenware version of the mug on page 1 of this thread.






 
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Luckydesigns
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Posted: 2013-06-12 09:52 am   Permalink

This is a great preview to the music of Tiki Oasis. Some western swing, some rockabilly, some swamp surf, some truck driving music (??), some 1930s Hawaiian, and some bonafied HULABILLY. But no hillbilly. Know the difference.

Give it a listen!!

http://www.radiofreebakersfield.com/shows/rfb320.mp3

Repost from Whorehay:
RFB 320--TIKI OASIS GOES HULABILLY!!!

Guest hosted by Spike of the Hula Girls!

southern culture on the skids--skullbucket; chapel hill
southern culture on the skids--make mayan a hawaiian; chapel hill
http://www.scots.com/

b-stars--ink free baby of mine; san francisco
b-stars--chicken fried; san francisco
http://thebstars.com/

hula girls--hulabilly honey; costa mesa
hula girls--hula hula bang bang; costa mesa
http://thehulagirls.bigcartel.com/

chris sprague & his 18 wheelers--let's get drunk & truck; van nuys
chris sprague & his 18 wheelers--truck stop a go go; van nuys
http://www.reverbnation.com/chrissugarballsspragueandhis18wheelers

lucky stars--hot potato; hollywood
lucky stars--mama's got the rundown daddy blues; hollywood
http://www.theluckystars.com/

cheap leis--right here in my heart; san diego
cheap leis--gay hawaiian party; san diego
http://www.myspace.com/thecheapleis

acapulco radio--bikini beat; berlin
acapulco radio--the finger of suspicion; berlin
http://www.acapulcoradio.com/

kitty chow & fisherman--apache; oakland/nyc
kitty chow & fisherman--nani waimea; oakland/nyc
http://kittychowandfisherman.com/

surfer joe--the north swell; livorno
surfer joe--the killer wave; livorno
http://lorenzo.surferjoe.it

kim tsoy & the new sauce--take the keys to my heart; lake alfred
kim tsoy & the new sauce--touch me; lake alfred
http://www.reverbnation.com/kimtsoy

big sandy & his fly-rite boys--love me to cinders; long beach
http://www.bigsandy.net/

Tiki Oasis 13
August 15-18, 2013

Opening night August 15
Bali Hai
2230 Shelter Island Dr
San Diego CA 92106

Main event August 16-18
Crowne Plaza Hotel
2270 Hotel Circle North
San Diego CA 92108
http://www.tikioasis.com/2013/

http://www.radiofreebakersfield.com/shows/rfb320.mp3

_________________
http://radiofreebakersfield.com
http://www.myspace.com/pronouncedwhorehay
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Radio-Free-Bakersfield/172410279636
http://garagepunk.ning.com/profile/RadioFreeBakersfield
http://www.sandiegojoe.com/rfb.htm

_________________
Spike
www.facebook.com/thehulagirls
www.thehulagirlsmusic.com



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bigtikidude
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Posted: 2013-06-12 10:00 am   Permalink

Gonna listen tonight when I get home.
Can't wait to hear it.
Thanks for doing it Spike n Whorehay

Jeff btd


 
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Tiki-ESP
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Joined: Jun 28, 2008
Posts: 219
From: Orange-O-Rama
Posted: 2013-06-12 12:36 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-06-11 11:44, JOHN-O wrote:
Quote:

On 2013-06-10 18:30, Tiki-ESP wrote:

Quote:

On 2013-06-10 15:30, JOHN-O wrote:

Hmmm... it would appear that both GROG and Tiki-ESP are self-censoring Hillybilly haters who take issue with the "derailment" of this year's Tiki Oasis.

If you're really serious about HULA-billy as a musical genre then go to this thread I started, otherwise HILL-billies in mid-century pop culture were Gol' durned FUN !!

Seriously though I think Hillbillies might share even more of a zeitgeist with Tiki than the past Oasis themes of "Spy" or "South of the Border". (Actually I don't even know what "zeitgeist" means but the Bigbro uses that word a lot).

Here's my reason... I think the backwoods disinhibition of Hillbillies resonated with middle class suburban L7's much in the same way the "modern primitive" appeal of Tiki did. Hillbillies were free from all of the uptight social conventions that pre-counterculture America had to adhere to. Hillbillies said whatever was on their mind, made their own moonshine, married their underaged cousins, and shot at those pesky revenuers.

I think that was part of the big appeal of the "Beverly Hillbillies"' which was one of the most successful sitcoms in television history, along with other popular rural themed comedies like "Green Acres", "Petticoat Junction", "Andy Griffith", and "Gomer Pyle".

And before the "Beverly Hillbillies"' there were "The Real McCoys" who hit the airways roughly around the same time Tikis starting popping up in "Polynesian" restaurants.

The Hillbilly craze was sweeping the nation !!



You take from the event what you will, or call it whatever you like. But seems disingenuous to the essence of the event when it is called a "Hulabilly" event, but yet a majority of the marketing, and posts here, are referencing the Hillybilly theme. These are distinctly two different words, with different meanings. Its like going into a restaurant that on the outside advertises as French cuisine, but once you are inside its serving Mexican, or vice versa.


Well as much as I hate to rely on Wikipedia to make a point, this is from their definition of Rockabilly...

"The term 'rockabilly' is a portmanteau of 'rock' (from 'rock 'n' roll') and 'hillbilly', the latter a reference to the country music (often called 'hillbilly music' in the 1940s and 1950s) that contributed strongly to the style's development."


Spike's definition of Hulabilly sways more towards Rockabilly incorporating Hapa Haole, Exotica, and Surf influences. The steel guitar is a major part of The Hula Girls' sound.

Otto's definition is a bit broader, refer to his take on the first post of this thread.

The challenge with "Hulabilly" is that as a musical style, there isn't an abundance of pop cultural iconography to uniquely represent the genre, aside from maybe "Blue Hawaii" Elvis. If anyone here can contribute other examples, then I encourage them to post on this thread.

HILL-billies on the other hand, were all over the place during the Pre-Tiki and Tiki eras as evident in film, television, and print. They were a unique pop cultural phenomena as reflective of the times as Spy, the "South of the Border" sound, and yes Tiki.

This broad umbrella or "connecting of the dots" is what makes Tiki Oasis so unique among all the different events.

It's also what makes it so much FUN !! C'mon, we need to think outside the box otherwise we're just gonna wind up with Viva Las Vegas (the event) in Aloha shirts.

Carry on, Cammo.



I love the discourse we are having here John-O.

From the all knowing Otto's own Tiki Oasis page


This year at Tiki Oasis we are exploring the Hawaiian influence on American music. Part Americana, part Hawaiiana, Hulabilly is an American music style derived from the blending of Rockabilly and Haole Hawaiian music.

Just as Tiki Style is a blend of Polynesian influences as interpreted through Americans' romanticized view of the South Seas, Hawaiian music has been sentimentalized and interpreted by American musicians. Like waves hitting the Pacific shores, America experienced recurring ukulele crazes with a longing look toward the Hawaiian Sunset. Similarly in the 1930s, 40s and 50s Hawaiian Slack Key guitar and slide guitar seeped into Western music and permeated The Nashville Sound. American musicians used that sound to play their own versions of Hawaiian music classics such as "On the Beach at Waikiki", "Hula Blues", and "Ukulele Lady" and then form their own Westernized Hawaii sound blending Hawaiian music influences with American early rock n roll (Bop) to create the sound of HulaBilly.

From Bob Wills and his Texas Playboys version of "Hawaiian War Chant" in 1946 To Elvis Presley's "Rock-A-Hula Baby" in the Grammy-nominated movie "Blue Hawaii" in 1961, Hulabilly was a popular music form on America's radios, televisions, and movies.


That introduction never mentions hillbilly, which is sometimes considered to be a derogatory slang term. Yet, there are posts here that are doing everyone interested in learning more about Hulabilly a disservice. John-O started his own thread about Hula-billy, but somehow ‘hulabilly’ takes a backseat to ‘hillbilly’ in this thread? More/less the 'Hillbilly' genre/aesthetic has piggybacked (no pun intended) onto this, and with the organizers (sorry Otto / BabyDoe) perpetuating this connection with emails in the proverbial southern accent twang doesn't help. Its like paying for some information from a reliable source, just to be sold something completely different except for the switching of a couple vowels. Don’t worry kids I swear its milk they say, well I ain’t drinking it!

So, instead of posting the ‘Greatest Hillbillies of All Time’, or cartoons, why not talk some more about the aforementioned groups that were brought up in the Tiki Oasis intro, the bands, the event itself?

Some posters/readers don’t even care for the theme, as that’s not the reason they are going. I’m usually in that crowd of whatever, this event really doesn’t need a theme to me, ie – the year it was ‘Circus’ didn’t even care. I know I’ll have a good time chatting with people, and taking in some of the bands, symposiums. If the theme is something I can wrap my head around then great. But, when skewing the lines of the theme into something it isn’t, then that needs to be corrected. I know there are those that agree with that, and those that say let bygones be bygones. Guess this year’s theme I’m siding with the former. Yea, look for me at the event, I’ll be wearing the shirt that reads –ITS HULABILLY, not HIllBILLY.


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