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eBay: The Pizz Big Kahuna Outrigger mug set for sale 41/100 OK, I'm trying this again.
smokintikis
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Joined: Mar 22, 2004
Posts: 199
Posted: 2013-06-25 09:40 am   Permalink

fred fredders
1790 faux st
Schenectady , Ny 12345
He didn't even try to be real about it. I can't believe Ebay lets things like this go through.


 
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tikiskip
Grand Member (8 years)  

Joined: Nov 26, 2005
Posts: 2831
Posted: 2013-06-25 09:55 am   Permalink

Member since: Jun-23-13

On Faux Street.
Looks like he did sign up just to get you.


 
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ron-tiki
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Joined: Feb 24, 2007
Posts: 387
From: los angeles
Posted: 2013-06-27 09:39 am   Permalink

Here's another deadbeat... iamthecollector...Bid up my auction then canceled..

 
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smokintikis
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Joined: Mar 22, 2004
Posts: 199
Posted: 2013-06-27 4:53 pm   Permalink

Wow... That is a huge coincidence. He bid on this, then was out bid right after by the scammer guy. I think they are one in the same.
I'm going to contact EBay and see if this constitutes Internet fraud and how to prosecute.
They must have the IP address.


 
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lunavideogames
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Joined: May 09, 2012
Posts: 1141
From: San Diego
Posted: 2013-06-27 6:16 pm   Permalink

ebay won't help you sadly, they are all about the buyers and could care less about the sellers.

Used to be able to say no to bidders with less than 5 feedback. Now sellers can't even find out through feedback who the bad buyers are. All you can do is send the high bidders an email and cancel their bids if they do not reply. Or put it in your auction that anyone under 10 feedback has to contact you before bidding, and cancel their bids if they do not follow your directions.

Good luck, ebay is annoying!


 
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kohalacharms
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Joined: Jan 29, 2004
Posts: 38
Posted: 2013-06-29 1:38 pm   Permalink

Another, unrelated, eBay ploy that I highly suspect occurs but cannot prove is that some sellers place bids on there own auctions utilizing another eBay account /ID in order to either peak greater interest in their listing by creating the illusion that the item is in high demand and/or to drive-up the winning bid. If the seller inadvertently finds that their ploy backfires and that their own bid is the winning bid, they contact the second highest bidder and offer to sell them the auction item for their highest bid secondary to the fact that they either have an 'identical spare' or the auction winner has backed-out of the transaction. I've been the recipient of many such offers over the years. My response is always the same, I'm willing to purchase the item for $1 more than the third place bidder. If there was a bidding war between myself and the auction winner, I offer $1 more than the highest bid placed by another bidder other than the winner.

 
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ron-tiki
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Joined: Feb 24, 2007
Posts: 387
From: los angeles
Posted: 2013-06-29 3:42 pm   Permalink

kohalacharms,
i agree with you fully..In some cases I do think the sellers set up a bogus account.In my case. I was the seller...


 
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tikiskip
Grand Member (8 years)  

Joined: Nov 26, 2005
Posts: 2831
Posted: 2013-06-29 4:34 pm   Permalink

I would think to put a bid of $1800.00 on this your own auction
would be kinda dumb really, not to mention a felony I think.
But then in the tiki world we know most of the players so it's not hard
to see that a guy with two letters say o****C and 4748 past buys on
eBay it is easy to know who that is.

I don't buy or sell much on eBay anymore so don't know the ins and outs,
or prices of these tiki things.
It got to a point where you could never get tiki stuff that was rare or
worth much. (Some people spend a month on tiki an amount that is more than lots o people make a month)
BUT if we post the fakes here on TC we could maybe put two and two together
and stop a few.

Also when one of these fakers puts up a bogus bid I have maybe once had a person take
a second chance offer.
So I would not think putting up a fake bid on your own item would work very well.


 
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Loki-Tiki
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Joined: Nov 05, 2007
Posts: 274
From: Like...The Valley
Posted: 2013-06-29 8:45 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-06-29 16:34, tikiskip wrote:
I would think to put a bid of $1800.00 on this your own auction
would be kinda dumb really, not to mention a felony I think.


Q: Hey buddy, what are you in for?
A: For running up the price on an eBay auction

I pray my tax dollars are going to incarcerate the perp of an actual crime.


 
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tikiskip
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Joined: Nov 26, 2005
Posts: 2831
Posted: 2013-06-30 06:23 am   Permalink

"I pray my tax dollars are going to incarcerate the perp of an actual crime."

No actually they let most of those people go free too.
It's part of what is wrong in our society today, the criminal
is the hero in the public eye while people who want people to
pay for their crimes are seen as stiff old fuddy duddies.


 
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smokintikis
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Joined: Mar 22, 2004
Posts: 199
Posted: 2013-07-01 08:17 am   Permalink

Well I've relisted it. Someone tried running up the bid already with a 0 feedback, I axed his bids and it brought the real bid back down to $799.00.
If you're bidding on this and see someone with a 0 feedback bidding as well, hold off on your future bids until I can block him as a bidder and cancle his bids.
Cheers-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370842903578&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

[ This Message was edited by: smokintikis 2013-07-01 14:54 ]


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Hale Tiki
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Joined: Oct 19, 2004
Posts: 1798
From: Pittsburgh
Posted: 2013-07-01 12:19 pm   Permalink

Best of luck on round 2!

 
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smokintikis
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Joined: Mar 22, 2004
Posts: 199
Posted: 2013-07-01 5:08 pm   Permalink

The current bidder on the auction is ragdollphysed.
Anyone know this bidder? Good feedback score, but so did iamthecollector.


 
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tikijackskeleton
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Joined: Dec 30, 2012
Posts: 52
From: Los Angeles
Posted: 2013-07-01 6:14 pm   Permalink

Probably good to send them a message. How many legit bids do you think were there in the last attempt? If you're comfortable with the $799 price point, I would say just offer to end the auction at that point and see if they're a legit potential buyer.


edit: I just notice that the price was higher than the $799, still. If they're spamming up your auctions, finding a buyer and not dealing with having to monitor it may be worth dropping the perceived higher value shillers make it seem to be.

[ This Message was edited by: tikijackskeleton 2013-07-01 18:18 ]


 
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smokintikis
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Joined: Mar 22, 2004
Posts: 199
Posted: 2013-07-01 6:26 pm   Permalink

Hi. Thanks for that. I had what I would consider 4 serious bidders last time.
The current high bidder has a good feedback score, so I'll see.
I do have a standing offer on the piece if I get burned again, so either way it's sold.


 
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