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Kohala Bay Rum
Little fragrant Tiare
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Posted: 2013-06-29 7:15 pm   Permalink

Is there any good online source for this rum?

I just wrote a post about the Black Magic cocktail from Mai Kai and would like to try to find Kohala Bay rum now when i`m going to the US. I`m going to New Orleans and i have no idea if its sold there, haven`t seen it before anyway.

Heres the post btw if anyone wants to read -
http://www.amountainofcrushedice.com/?p=17967
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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2013-06-29 11:13 pm   Permalink

Don't get your hopes up too high, Kohala Bay is nowhere near Dagger in its depth and density of taste. The Mai Kai has managed somehow to keep the Back Magic as a yummy as it was when Dagger was still used, but by itself, Kohala pales.

 
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Sunny&Rummy
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Posted: 2013-06-30 09:32 am   Permalink

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On 2013-06-29 23:13, bigbrotiki wrote:
Don't get your hopes up too high, Kohala Bay is nowhere near Dagger in its depth and density of taste. The Mai Kai has managed somehow to keep the Back Magic as a yummy as it was when Dagger was still used, but by itself, Kohala pales.



I have no idea what the original Dagger Punch Rum tasted like, but I agree Kohala Bay is not indispensable as long as you can get a hold of a quality dark Jamaican rum (= Coruba). I can get Kohala locally with some regularity and I have enjoyed playing around with it -- especially playing with Hurricane Hayward's Mai-Kai tribute recipes -- but I think Overall Coruba is a much more versatile dark mixing rum for Tiki drinks.


 
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Little fragrant Tiare
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Posted: 2013-06-30 11:40 am   Permalink

Yes, i will get a bottle of Coruba in Nola bec its always there and not expensive either. I got a comment on my post which i copy and paste here:

"The Kohala Bay dark Jamaican rum isn't impossible to find, you do have to jump through a few hoops to get it. The US importer of the rum is Carriage Importers, in Springfield, New Jersey. The curious fact is that almost no one has it on their shelf for retail sale, they are supplying just a couple of "big" buyers of the rum, one being the Mai-Kai in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

Carriage supplies Republic National Distributors with Kohala Bay in Florida. After speaking with the Republic in Florida, they were kind enough to let me know that while their only client current client for it is the Mai-Kai, they serve many large South Florida liquor stores including ABC, Total Wine, and Crown. While none of these stores are shelving Kohala Bay, all these stores (and others) can special order it from Republic and have it in just a couple of days. (Fyi, the distributor only has it in 1.75 liter bottles)

So, IF you are Southern Florida, AND you have a few days to spare, you can get this very illusive rum to take home with you!"


 
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Little fragrant Tiare
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Posted: 2013-06-30 11:42 am   Permalink

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On 2013-06-29 23:13, bigbrotiki wrote:
The Mai Kai has managed somehow to keep the Back Magic as a yummy as it was when Dagger was still used, but by itself, Kohala pales.



I wonder what they do to keep it as tasty as it was with the dagger rum?
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Sunny&Rummy
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Posted: 2013-06-30 11:50 am   Permalink

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On 2013-06-30 11:42, Little fragrant Tiare wrote:
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On 2013-06-29 23:13, bigbrotiki wrote:
The Mai Kai has managed somehow to keep the Back Magic as a yummy as it was when Dagger was still used, but by itself, Kohala pales.



I wonder what they do to keep it as tasty as it was with the dagger rum?




Everything tastes better when it is served by Molokai Maidens!

Mai-Kai is a place you need to make a sidetrip to see during one of your Tales visits. Tiare. The place will absolutely blow you away.

Re the Mai-Kai coffee drink trio, the Mutiny is tops for me, but of course the Black Magic is a favorite as well.

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GentleHangman
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Posted: 2013-06-30 1:29 pm   Permalink

Here in Stuart, Florida, I was able to get Total Wine & More to order me my first batch of Kohala Bay (and also Coruba which none of my local establishments have on their shelves), while they do have Smith & Cross on their shelf. Now, I have my local Star LiquorsIII (literally around the corner from where I live) stocking Kohala Bay as well as El Dorado, 5yo, 12yo, 15yo as well as El Dorado's Cuba Libre dark. Lemon hart however, was another story. Although the distrubitr is right here in my hommetown - nobody deals with them . . . EXCEPT Roy's Liquors in Ft. Pierce and they usually have it on their shelf (I call them first to check before I make the trek up there to the store), and they have a lot of the other ingredients like Falernum, Orgeat, etc. that the other stores do not have - as well as the largest selection of rum I've seen anywhere!


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Sunny&Rummy
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Posted: 2013-06-30 1:38 pm   Permalink

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On 2013-06-30 13:29, GentleHangman wrote:
Here in Stuart, Florida, I was able to get Total Wine & More to order me my first batch of Kohala Bay (and also Coruba which none of my local establishments have on their shelves), while they do have Smith & Cross on their shelf. Now, I have my local Star LiquorsIII (literally around the corner from where I live) stocking Kohala Bay as well as El Dorado, 5yo, 12yo, 15yo as well as El Dorado's Cuba Libre dark. Lemon hart however, was another story. Although the distrubitr is right here in my hommetown - nobody deals with them . . . EXCEPT Roy's Liquors in Ft. Pierce and they usually have it on their shelf (I call them first to check before I make the trek up there to the store), and they have a lot of the other ingredients like Falernum, Orgeat, etc. that the other stores do not have - as well as the largest selection of rum I've seen anywhere!
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Roy's is my savior. A couple of years ago they had Scarlet Ibis on the shelf so I realized they could het all of the Haus Alpens stuff. Now they are the only place around that stocks Smith&Cross, Taylor Velvet Falernum, St. Elisabeth Pimento Dram, Batavia Arrack, Swedish Punsch, Hayman's Old Tom Gin, etc., not to mention LH151 and Kohala Bay. A good chunk of my paycheck ends up going into Keith's pocket.
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arriano
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Posted: 2013-06-30 4:03 pm   Permalink

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On 2013-06-29 23:13, bigbrotiki wrote:
Don't get your hopes up too high, Kohala Bay is nowhere near Dagger in its depth and density of taste. The Mai Kai has managed somehow to keep the Back Magic as a yummy as it was when Dagger was still used, but by itself, Kohala pales.



Do you have a recommendation for something that does have the depth and density of taste of dagger rum - or at least something that comes the closest?

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bigbrotiki
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Posted: 2013-06-30 10:10 pm   Permalink

In terms of dark, molasses-like taste that verges on bitter medicine there are these Demararas you can get in England, but they do have that Demarara tang:



- and you can't get 'em in the US

It's like the old and the new Lemonhart: Might work as a mixer, but by itself, it ain't the same.


 
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lunavideogames
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Posted: 2013-07-01 12:41 pm   Permalink

I took your advice and grabbed a bottle of Wood's. My friend from the UK was just here and he got it for me for a gift for letting him stay with us. I like the flavor, but it is tough to get so I will have to drink it slowly.

Arriano, I might try to bring you a little taster tonight at the meet up (if I don't forget).


 
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Little fragrant Tiare
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Posted: 2013-07-01 12:56 pm   Permalink

I love the OVD!! its a good mixing demerara i think. I haven`t tried Wood`s yet though!

Yes i should try make a trip to Mai Kai sometimes...it`s just that i go down to New Orleans and granted, i stay one month with my friends in the city but i`m always on a such a hopeless budget!! i can`t live like a tourist while i`m there no less make any side trips...but maybe some day, maybe after i moved down!


 
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Posted: 2013-07-01 1:17 pm   Permalink

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On 2013-07-01 12:41, lunavideogames wrote:
I took your advice and grabbed a bottle of Wood's.



For sipping, it's a tough drink, better mellowed with a cube of ice. It's simply a man's rum. Yum!...and so was Dagger


 
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lunavideogames
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Posted: 2013-07-01 1:34 pm   Permalink

I found a bottle of the Dagger a while ago on ebay. Just a little airplane bottle though. I was waiting for an extra special occasion to open it. I will have to save a bit of Wood's until I open it, to do a back to back. I don't know if the flavor of the Dagger would have diminished by now, but I am excited to drink it.

 
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GatorRob
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Posted: 2013-07-06 1:48 pm   Permalink

I spoke briefly with Stephen Remsburg at Hukilau last year about this. His opinion was that the most suitable modern replacement for Dagger would be Coruba. He wasn't saying they were equivalent but that Coruba is probably the closest substitute available in the U.S. today. He's tasted them all, so I place a lot of weight on that opinion. Dagger might have had more complexity but I suspect much of that would get lost in a snifter-sized drink like the Black Magic. For that same reason, that's probably why Kohala Bay works too.

 
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