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What proportion of your rum is worthwhile?
AdOrAdam
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Posted: 2013-08-05 11:35 am   Permalink

I saw these posts on another thread:

Quote:

XXX wrote:
okay, i'm now outta rum


Quote:

YYY wrote:
Wait a minute... You can run out of rum?


Quote:

XXX wrote:
Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it.



The names of the members have been change to protect the disadvantaged!

The purpose of this thread isn't to brag about the size of your liquor collection or to say that you couldn't live without 8 different rums to use in 5 different mai tai combos...


My question is: If you were to start your mixing rum collection again from nothing, what do you consider most worthwhile & what % of your current collection is it?

I say mixing collection because involving sippers would complicate matters!


E.G.
My lucky hypothetical friend has 10 bottles of rum.

She has Appleton VX, Appleton Special, Mount Gay, Cockspur, El Dorado 5, J Bally Amber, Bacardi Gold, Havana Club Blanco, Brugal Blanco & Cruzan Jelly Bean flavour.

If she had to start over she says she would have: either gold Jamaican, either Bajan, the El Dorado 5, the J Bally, the Bacardi Gold, either the Havana Club or the Brugal. She never wants to try Cruzan Jelly Bean again!

A bit of maths later she works out 60% of her collection is 'worthwhile'

Hopefully using percentages will prevent bragging!


 
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AdOrAdam
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Posted: 2013-08-05 11:36 am   Permalink

I work out 30% of my mixing collection to be worthwhile.

The other 57% of it is duplications of the same style, 13% is damn near undrinkable!

Jack Iron mai tai anyone?
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2013-08-05 12:12 pm   Permalink

I like everything I have except for a mini if Sailor Jerry. Bleah.

My Must-Have-Replacements: Smith Cross. Flor de Caña. Appleton V/X.


 
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Sunny&Rummy
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Posted: 2013-08-05 12:52 pm   Permalink

About 90% is worthwhile in that at least one goto drink needs that particular rum or the drink won't sing. that drops to about 70% worthwhile if I define that as rums used regularly in maybe 3 or more different cocktails.

A good example of this distinction is Cruzan Blackstrap versus Coruba or Smith&Cross versus Appleton V/X. If I don't have Cruzan Blackstrap and Smith&Cross on hand I can't make either a proper Corn N Oil or a Kingston Negroni so there will be a couple of regular rotation cocktais that will be scratched from the menu. But if I'm out of Coruba that nixes about half of the Tiki/Caribbean cocktails I typically mix up, and ditto for V/X. Whether greater mixing varsitility = more worthwhile rum I am not sure.


 
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Swanky
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Posted: 2013-08-05 12:57 pm   Permalink

I have a top row of stuff I have collected, but rarely use. Sippers. 21 YO Appleton, Havana Club, etc.

I have tossed the stuff I do not use mostly. In total bottles, I'd be at 80-90% usable, but in distinct bottles, no backstock counting, I'd be at 40%.

Down and dirty, I need:
Myers's Dark
Some white rum
Some gold rum
LH 151

If I expand it just a little, I would add a Demerara 80 like El Do 12 YO, Smith & Cross for my Swizzle recipe.

If I making a Mai Tai, I need Appleton Extra and a Martinique like St. James H'ors d'age.

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AdOrAdam
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Posted: 2013-08-05 1:57 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-08-05 12:52, Sunny&Rummy wrote:
About 90% is worthwhile in that at least one go to drink needs that particular rum or the drink won't sing. that drops to about 70% worthwhile if I define that as rums used regularly in maybe 3 or more different cocktails...

Whether greater mixing versatility = more worthwhile rum I am not sure.



Yep, that was my idea - most of my bar I can switch around apart from for a few drinks, my thoughts were do I need:

- Appleton Special & VX? Bacardi Gold & Bacardi 8? Havana Club Blanco & Havana Club 3? (After a bit of internal debate) Nope, Id opt for the older in each case.
- El Dorado 5 & Woods 100? Yes.
- The 25% of my collection that I haven't used in 6 months - probably not!

Quote:

On 2013-08-05 12:12, TikiTacky wrote:
My Must-Have-Replacements: Smith Cross. Flor de Caña. Appleton VX



I like all but 3 of my rums but I think thats the idea - what percentage of you collection is must-have-replacements?

Quote:

On 2013-08-05 12:57, Swanky wrote:
No backstock counting, I'd be at 40%...

Down and dirty, I need:
Myers's Dark
Some white rum
Some gold rum
LH 151

If I expand it just a little...
If I making a Mai Tai, I need...



Good point Swanky - I'm always expanding. You've gotta make what you like & to sometimes to make another drink you need another rum!

From my 30% 'worthwhile' I could probably make all the drinks I like to this point, that may change in the future.

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arriano
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Posted: 2013-08-05 3:30 pm   Permalink

Agree basically with others here. I need:
* Former Spanish colony light rum
* Former Spanish colony gold rum
* Dark Jamaican rum
* Lemon Hart 151
* Martinique rum

More and more I've been using my Lemon Hart 114. That's my replacement for Smith & Cross. And then there are lots of rums I have that I use if the recipe calls for it.

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thePorpoise
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Posted: 2013-08-05 7:39 pm   Permalink

all i pretty much need for mixing are:

1. a light English-style rum (in order of preference: El Dorado 3 year old; Appleton white; Myers's white); and

2. a dark English-style rum (in order of preference: ED 8 yr old; ED 5 yr old; Pusser's; Gosling's black seal).

I've had several martinique rums, but not enamored of any drinks calling for them. lime my Mai-Tai better with two dark rums.

I've had Coruba and Lemon Hart, but they aren't in any stores around here.

I've discovered over the years that I prefer substituting dark rum in most drinks calling for a gold.


 
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Posted: 2013-08-05 7:47 pm   Permalink

I save the Top, Top shelf stuff for John-O when he stops in......

 
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djmont
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Posted: 2013-08-05 8:11 pm   Permalink

I have a lot of rums, and most of them I haven't opened. So why have them? A good question! I suppose I have them for the same reason any collector has things. In other words: no good reason.

I suppose maybe I use 10 different rums on regular occasion.
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thePorpoise
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Posted: 2013-08-05 8:26 pm   Permalink

man, first thing i do when i get a new rum is open up the bottle and have a shot neat...

 
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thePorpoise
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Posted: 2013-08-05 9:10 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-08-05 19:47, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
I save the Top, Top shelf stuff for John-O when he stops in......



I don't know a John-O from a Steve-O from a Danno, but one thing I do know- I'ma open up my Appleton Estate 21-year-old and pour myself a nip... (did I mention I bought it for just sixty bucks?)


 
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AdOrAdam
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Posted: 2013-08-06 06:50 am   Permalink

I have pretty much used the thread below as a reference for what to keep in my home bar:

http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=45005&forum=10&7

I just added my 2 cents today with a few alterations

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Swanky
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Posted: 2013-08-06 08:42 am   Permalink

Yeah, if I am serving regular Joes, I use Myers' nor other dark instead of Demerara. If I am making it for me and the missus, or someone who is going to relish it like John-O, I use the "right" rums. Economy of taste.
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AceExplorer
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Posted: 2013-08-06 10:12 am   Permalink

I've begun slowly paring down my rums too. There are bottles which are just not really necessary. The dilemma, though, as Swanky shared, is why serve a nice Demerara to regular Joes when Myers's will do just as well in that particular situation? Some of the finer stuff we have come to appreciate (and pay much more for) really does require your palate to have achieved some degree of development.

I agree with thePorpoise - I also take any new rum and sip it neat the first time. Gotta give those angels an opportunity to sing!
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