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What drink was served inthe Don the Beachcomber bust mug?
Swanky
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Posted: 2013-08-07 12:08 pm   Permalink

I don't recall ever seeing the mug as a graphic on a menu. I would assume it was used for the Zombie. It's also rather odd that the mug came along long after Donn was no longer really involved in the operation. Must have been some sort of cruel joke by Sunny. There are too many here to have been a Hawaii only mug, and being on Hawaii makes that even less likely due to costs and resources.
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Posted: 2013-08-07 12:36 pm   Permalink

I think it would help to try and establish a date for the mug. I've heard speculation it was a Getty mug, but I would think it would match their revised look of "Don" into that hirsute handsome fellow, which the mug clearly isn't. My money is on pre-Getty.
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Posted: 2013-08-07 1:24 pm   Permalink

There is a drink called the "Don Beach" and that might be a more likely suspect for this mug.
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Posted: 2013-08-07 1:45 pm   Permalink

True, although it was originally served in a glass. Here's an illustration from a menu I have which is dated to 1963:



However Don's appeared to be using the same menu since 1941 and only updated the prices. They were using a new one by 1965 and eliminated the drawings and replaced them with watercolors, and the Don Beach is still only shown in a glass, so it's likely sometime after 1965—if that's even the correct drink!:



There's at least one mug out there that is hand signed ("Vermonde Original"), which might be an indication that the mugs were only made for one location for the long-neck green mugs at least. But which came first, the long-neck green mug, or the shirt-necked yellow/brown "Asian-eyed" mug?

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Posted: 2013-08-07 2:41 pm   Permalink

Can someone post a picture of the mug in question
are you not talking about the Don Tribute mug made by Tiki Farm some years back?


 
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Posted: 2013-08-07 4:39 pm   Permalink

The original Don mugs & not the Tiki Farm reproduction, right?
nothing on the bottom of the mug?

I remember someone telling me these are from Don's Waikiki 1970's or 80s?
is this the same info you boys have?


 
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2013-08-07 6:53 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-08-07 16:39, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
The original Don mugs & not the Tiki Farm reproduction, right?
nothing on the bottom of the mug?

Correct, the original. The one that I have is glazed and unmarked on the bottom.

I remember someone telling me these are from Don's Waikiki 1970's or 80s?
is this the same info you boys have?



Never heard that before. I doubt they're that recent, though, because my mug has high lead content in the glaze, which was regulated by the FDA in 1971.
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Posted: 2013-08-07 8:16 pm   Permalink

Don't forget the FDA only monitored samples
on a small percentile for actual testing, as many lead content items
made it into stores (especially from China) during the 80s & 90s

So lead content can not be an absolute measure on a production date
and for the home ceramicist there also was many unsafe glazes on the market also.


 
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Phillip Roberts
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Posted: 2013-08-07 9:19 pm   Permalink

Aloha,

No, not that green one. That's earlier.

The yellow mugs by Daga with the Chinese eyes were used in Waikiki in the 70's... (And the Daga/Polynesian Pottery cane raiser with the logo.)
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Posted: 2013-08-07 9:23 pm   Permalink

Thanks Phillip, I think Polypop or Sven may have more info on these also....

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Phillip Roberts
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Posted: 2013-08-08 12:10 am   Permalink

Aloha,

If I had to guess, i'd think it was a generic rum (Planter's) punch type of concoction. Just exrapolating....
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Posted: 2013-08-08 10:25 am   Permalink

Where is that thread with the potter's signature? I cannot look under mine cuz I'm not home, but we previously deciphered the name, maybe there is some new info on his work on the web.

 
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2013-08-08 10:52 am   Permalink

His name was Vermonde. He also did some bamboo mugs for DTB in Hollywood, so I'm guessing he was a local. I haven't been able to dig anything else up. The fact that he did the bamboo mugs and they're clearly marked "Hollywood" makes me think these are likely fairly early. I have trouble imagining Sunny commissioning a mug of Donn after he left for the war, but maybe I'm wrong. The key might be to check census records in LA for a Vermonde, it's an unusual name.
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Posted: 2013-08-08 11:18 am   Permalink

Ah ha! More clues. Look at this:



Signed by Vermonde, but stamped with three locations. The latest was Las Vegas, which opened in 1962. Looks like I was wrong (I hate it when that happens!).
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