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swizzle
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Posted: 2014-04-23 2:40 pm   Permalink

I came up with a brilliant idea last night on how to bring some LH 151 back with me on the plane. I'll print out some old LH labels and replace the new label with the old.

 
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lunavideogames
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Posted: 2014-04-23 2:58 pm   Permalink

Swizz, I don't think that they will check that hard, but that is a good plan to be on the safe side.

 
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Hurricane Hayward
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Posted: 2014-04-23 8:57 pm   Permalink

A few years ago, someone flying in to The Hukilau from the UK brought me two bottles of Havana Club, and I sent him back with two bottles of Lemon Hart 151 in trade. He didn't have a problem either way, but it was just a couple bottles. Not sure they would check the proof of what looks like a bottle of dark rum, but you never now.

And CincyTikiCraig, mahalo for starting the LH 151-to-80 thread. Great resource.

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swizzle
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Posted: 2014-04-23 10:45 pm   Permalink

I agree HH that they are most likely not going to be looking too hard but i also don't want to take the risk of having the rum confiscated. It's not the loss of money that concerns me but the fact that besides trying some drinks when i'm there it is extremely unlikely that LH will ever be available here in Aus. so to be able to bring some back with me is the only opportunity i'll have to mix some drinks with it at home.

Also, when you did the trade that would have been with the old label. Is that correct? The new label has 151 in quite large font right across the middle of the bottle. If it was the old label with the little red triangle, i wouldn't be concerned.


 
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Hurricane Hayward
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Posted: 2014-04-23 11:25 pm   Permalink

Yeah, it was definitely the old label. Less noticeable for sure. I wish you best of luck in your mission.

 
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Hurricane Hayward
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Posted: 2014-04-29 12:45 am   Permalink

I was lucky enough to try El Dorado 21 over the weekend at the Miami Rum Festival. All I can say is wow. It exceeded my expectations. Perhaps my all-time favorite sipping rum. It blows away the 15-year. Not sure I'd mix with it, but now I'll be on the lookout for a bottle at a reasonable price.

And Otto seems to agree:


I was also very impressed with Plantation Guyana 2005 ... very smooth and well rounded. Would be a great mixer along the lines of Lemon Hart 80. I'm afraid this one will be difficult to find, so snap it up if you see it.

Both of the above won "Best In Class" awards at the festival, El Dorado 21 for "Aged Rum, 19-21 years," and Plantation Guyana 2005 for "Special Cask."

Also, El Dorado 8 snagged a gold medal (2nd place) for "Aged Rum, 4-8 years" (Plantation 5 was first). And El Dorado 15 won gold for "Aged Rum, 13-18 years" (losing out to Pussers 15).

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Hurricane Hayward
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Posted: 2014-04-29 10:48 am   Permalink

Also worth mentioning, the latest 5 Minutes of Rum podcast on El Dorado 8 ...
http://5minutesofrum.com/episodes/2014/4/26/episode-24-el-dorado-8

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heylownine
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Posted: 2014-05-01 6:38 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2014-04-29 10:48, Hurricane Hayward wrote:
Also worth mentioning, the latest 5 Minutes of Rum podcast on El Dorado 8 ...
http://5minutesofrum.com/episodes/2014/4/26/episode-24-el-dorado-8



Thank you kind sir! Sounds like I need to find that Plantation Guyana 2005 in the wild.

Oh and if anyone is interested in hearing even more about El Dorado, I did a couple of older episodes on El Dorado as well.

El Dorado 5:
http://5minutesofrum.com/episodes/2013/6/27/episode-8-an-introduction-to-demrara-rum-with-el-dorado-5-year

El Dorado 21 and 12:
http://5minutesofrum.com/episodes/2013/8/31/episode-12-el-dorado-21-and-12

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AdOrAdam
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Posted: 2014-05-02 2:59 pm   Permalink

I enjoyed the '5 minutes of rum' podcast & Hurricane Hayward's great posts. Mahalo CincyTikiCraig for bring attention to that old thread, I am slowly diluting some LH151 diluting to LH80

I have now tried all but two of the recipes requiring regular 80 proof demerara rum from the Tiki+ app (damn you Beachbums Own & Cuba Kula with your Licor43 or Bacardi 151 respectively!). Im working my way through the recipes requiring LH151 too...

Since my last post on this thread (3 weeks ago), ED5 has found a way back on to my bar. In the below recipe I think the ED5 is better than my mainstay of ED8. All demerara fans, try it one way & then the other, see what you think!

Trader Vics Navy Grog:

1 shot each PR rum, Jamaican rum, Demerara rum, lemon juice, white grapefruit juice, demerara sugar syrup & soda water. 1/4 shot each lime & 'TV Navy Grog' mix.



NB: There are old posts on TC about 'TV Navy Grog Mix' ~ I tried some 'neat', not quite pimento dram but that's what I used in this drink. Id seen a couple of TV Navy Grog recipes on the net, I got this one from the kind barstaff in TVs London


 
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Hurricane Hayward
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Posted: 2014-05-28 01:04 am   Permalink

My long-awaited review of the Miami Rum Renaissance Festival is finally posted if anyone wants to learn more about El Dorado and all the other award-winning rums:
http://www.slammie.com/atomicgrog/blog/2014/05/25/upstart-spirits-share-spotlight-with-major-players-at-sixth-annual-miami-rum-renaissance-festival/

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hiltiki
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Posted: 2014-05-28 5:50 pm   Permalink



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AdOrAdam
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Posted: 2014-06-18 12:57 am   Permalink

So I got some LH80 for all those unable to obtain LH80, I thought I could post some thoughts:

FIRST OFF (first taste):

It's apparent LH80 is a good example of a demerara rum. It's got the 'woody / dark / burnt' flavours that myself & previous posters have mentioned but it is a well balanced & it's not sweet.

SECOND OFF (neat taste off):

I compared neat LH80 / my LH80 version watered down from LH151 / El Dorado 5 & El Dorado 8.

My diluted LH151 & LH80 might as well be equal - I did the taste test blind with the help of my girlfriend & picked out the diluted LH151, it lacked a very very little bit of 'richness'.

The flavour differences are subtle between actual LH80 & ED 8 - LH80 is a slightly drier, more cohesive flavour but I also like the slightly sweeter aftertaste in ED8. They have slightly different 'kick'.

I declare ED8 & LH80 equals - no mean feat, usually I can pick a favourite one way or the other. If El Dorado want to challenge Lemon Hart for the 151 crown, they should just put out a 151 version of El Dorado 8.

There are wider differences between LH80 & ED 5; LH80 is streets ahead. ED 5 is shown up like a much younger rum (like comparing Appleton Special & VX).

I also took a quick sip of El Dorado 12 & 15 to compare (although I consider these more sippers than mixers) ~ the subtle differences I tasted when comparing ED8 & LH80 are magnified.

THIRD OFF (a couple of drink reviews):

IMO LH80 makes a slightly better Queens Park Swizzle than ED8 (I did sweeten it a little extra) & a way better drink than ED5.

I made a Navy Grog with 3 shots of LH80 instead of the PR / Jamaican / Demerara. An earlier poster said it was 'the best Navy Grog they'd ever had'... it certainly is good but I prefer the normal 3 rum version by a smidgen (depending on the rums).

So all in all:

LH80 is a good rum, taste wise it equals El Dorado 8 as my 'go to' demerara rum & it is likely that either will work slightly better depending in the drink. They both came in around the same price point (LH80 was 3 more expensive) so it makes sense to have both handy.

Diluting LH151 to LH80 is a good easy way to get a barely perceivable difference to the 'official' product.

The main question for the future is will I be able to obtain Lemon Hart 80 or 151 at all...?


 
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