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Missing Don the Beachcomber cocktails
arriano
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From: Dog Patch - San Diego
Posted: 2014-02-12 11:10 am   Permalink

I was looking over the Don the Beachcomber menu from the 1940s that TikiTacky was nice enough to post the other day.

http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=46894&forum=5

And I began pondering all the DtB cocktail recipes that are listed on the menu, but whose recipes aren’t in any of Jeff Berry’s books or in the Arnold Bittner and Phoebe Beach book. There are a lot:
• Barbados Punch – possibly similar to recipe in ""Introducing Original Polynesian Tropical Bar Recipes" book - http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=44519&forum=10&45
• Barbados Swizzle – possibly similar to recipe in ""Introducing Original Polynesian Tropical Bar Recipes" book
• Beachcomber’s Sangaree – possibly a rum cocktail based on sangaree recipes from Jerry Thomas
• Beachcomber’s Silver – probably the Beachcomber’s Gold with light rum
• Hot Rum Grog – perhaps the Kona Coffee Grog without the coffee?
• General Pico - ??
• Governor General - Possibly used Gilbey's Governor General Rum from Jamaica?
• Hot Buttered Rum – fairly traditional drink, possibly using Pearl Diver Mix for its batter
• Martinique Milk Punch – a recipe is listed in a 1949 issue of Esquire Magazine.
• Mona Punch – perhaps used Myer’s 30-year Mona Rum
• Nelson’s Blood – I’ve seen one recipe that calls for rum, butter and hot water. I doubt it’s similar to the drink at the Portland Trader Vic’s
• Panama Daiquiri – possibly the same as Cuban Daiquiri but with Panamanian rum
• Skull & Bones – possibly similar to Mai Kai's Shrunken Skull and Tiki Ti's Skull & Bones
• Sugar Loaf Punch – I’ve found one recipe online that calls for rum, triple sec, orange and pineapple juices, and grenadine. Possibly used Sugar Loaf Rum from Jamaica?

Anyone have thoughts, ideas, etc. about any of these cocktails?



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Posted: 2014-02-12 11:28 am   Permalink

Caribbean Punch and Rum Cow are both in Sippin' Safari. I imagine a lot of others are available too?
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Posted: 2014-02-12 12:49 pm   Permalink

Some are in the new book like the Colonial Grog and Myrtle Bank Punch.

 
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arriano
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Posted: 2014-02-13 08:32 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2014-02-12 11:28, kkocka wrote:
Caribbean Punch and Rum Cow are both in Sippin' Safari. I imagine a lot of others are available too?




Thanks. I forget sometimes that all the cocktail recipes from Berry’s first three books aren’t in Beachbum Remixed.


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On 2014-02-12 12:49, Swanky wrote:
Some are in the new book like the Colonial Grog and Myrtle Bank Punch.



Thanks also. My copy of Potions of the Caribbean is on order, but hasn’t arrived yet. And I didn’t realize there were Don recipes in it.

I’ve deleted the four cocktails from the list above. Still a lot of cocktails are unknown.


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mikael3
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Posted: 2014-02-23 4:05 pm   Permalink

The 'Don Beach' is in "Sippin' Safari" on p. 17. It's a variation of the 'Don's Beach Planter'.

As far as I can tell, now that "Potions of the Caribbean" is out, all the recipes are available for the original "Delectable Thirty" and the early "Rum Rhapsodies". The missing recipes all seem to be from later menus, and that has led me to believe they were, as you point out, the same as the drinks served at Trader Vic's. That still leaves a few with no information at all, particularly the 'Governor General' and the 'General Pico'. I've never seen anything in any book or on any website for these drinks.


 
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Posted: 2014-02-24 07:21 am   Permalink

Sippin Safari definitely has Donn drinks(& others) not in Remixed, because the later is a compendium of Grog Log and Intoxica, right?

 
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arriano
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Posted: 2014-02-24 10:35 am   Permalink

Thanks for the input. I've updated the list (my copy of Potions of the Caribbean arrived Saturday). I also noticed that on the menu linked above, in the section listing Don's rums, there are three brands from Jamaica named Gilbey's Governor General, Myers's Mona (30 year), and Sugar Loaf. I wonder if those were the rums in the Governor General, Mona Punch, and Sugar Loaf Punch cocktails. And once those rums were no longer available, the cocktails either disappeared or renamed.

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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2014-02-24 11:10 am   Permalink

Good thinking. I had intended to go through that list at some point and search for the rums to see what information was available on them and add it to The Tikipedia.
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arriano
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Posted: 2014-03-07 10:02 am   Permalink

I just received a copy of "Introducing Original Polynesian Tropical Bar Recipes" (see thread link below)
http://www.tikiroom.dreamhosters.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=44519&forum=10&26

Among the recipes is, lo-and-behold, ones for both the Barbados Punch and Barbados Swizzle. The authors apparently worked for Don the Beachcomber. But are they actually the DtB recipes? The recipe in the book for the Zombie and a few others are very close to Don's. And perhaps most notably, the recipes for the Barbados Punch and Swizzle are completely different from those of Trader Vic's. So maybe, just maybe.

Also, I'm wondering if the Don the Beachcomber Skull & Bones is the same drink as the Shrunken Skull available at the Mai Kai. If you compare Slammie's recreation of the Shurnken Skull with the ingredients of the Tiki Ti's Skull & Bones, they look to be very similar:

Mai Kai Shrunken Skull:
http://www.slammie.com/atomicgrog/blog/2011/08/10/mai-kai-cocktail-review-drink-like-a-native-with-the-shrunken-skull/

Tiki Ti's Skull & Bones:
http://www.tiki-ti.com/drinks/a-skullbones.html


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Posted: 2014-03-10 08:13 am   Permalink

Love the Mai Kai 'tribute' Shrunken Skull! Awesome but easy to make. I've always found the recipe that the Bum published to be too lime-heavy myself.

 
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hang10tiki
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Posted: 2014-04-08 3:55 pm   Permalink

Aloha

Nice post

I just compared my two DTB menus for any differences.
Old Hollywood and Vegas (Sahara) versions.

They each have 6 drinks that the other doesn't.

In the Hollywood version and not in Vegas are:

1. Barbados Swizzle
2. Cuban Daiquiri. *
3. Martinique Milk Punch
4. Nelson's Blood
5. Rum Cow
6. Rum Gum Lime


In the Vegas version and not in the Hollywood are:

1. Beachcomber's Daiquiri *
2. Joe's Jumbo Gold *
3. Mai-Tai
4. Royal Daiquiri
5. Scorpion
6. Silver Anniversary *


* I can't locate these drinks


Cheers
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Posted: 2014-04-08 4:03 pm   Permalink

Vegas version






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arriano
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Posted: 2014-04-09 09:34 am   Permalink

Hmmmm... more mystery! Joe's Jumbo Gold is inset under the Beachcomber's Gold, so I'm guessing it was a double Beachcomber's Gold. The Beachcomber's Daiquiri could be the Cuban Daiquiri with a different rum (Cuban rum no longer available by this time).

 
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Posted: 2014-04-09 4:38 pm   Permalink

Good thinking....

 
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