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New Monin TIKI and South Seas Syrups!
Maui Chimes
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From: The Hyacinth House
Posted: 2014-02-18 11:18 am   Permalink

Check it out! New Tiki and South Seas flavored Syrups from Monin! Just placed my order! Should be fun to see how these work in the arsenal.

http://www.monin.com/us-en

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Klas
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Posted: 2014-02-20 02:25 am   Permalink

"With its exotic blend of passion fruit, pomegranate and ginger ... Perfect for creating the classic Mai Tai, Hurricane, Zombie"

http://www.monin.com/us-en/products/premium-syrups-0/monin-tiki-blend

Makes me want to stop using their other syrups.

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AceExplorer
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Posted: 2014-02-20 08:43 am   Permalink


Yup, Klas, that is very unfortunate marketing verbiage. Folks in North America can send Monin a note with your reaction and thoughts at
http://www.monin.com/us-en/contact In other countries, go to the Monin web site home page, click on "contact us," and follow directions to send a note to the Monin main office for your country or continent.

I sent them the following:

Hello, your "Tiki Blend" syrup is being marketed as "Perfect for creating the classic Mai Tai, Hurricane, Zombie and Tropical Punch..." You also refer to this syrup as "authentic." I do not believe these assertions are correct, and by making these statements, am politely suggesting that the Monin brand is contributing to ongoing historical revisionism related to these and other truly classic cocktails. The actual roots of these cocktails, and the development of their recipes, are known and respected by restaurant and bar consultants, cocktail historians, and other mixologists who are in-the-know. These individuals often use Monin products in bars and restaurants. I personally respect and value the Monin brand and am therefore calling this to your attention for your review and consideration. Please feel free to contact me if you would like additional information. With kindest regards, (my signature, city, state)


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arriano
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Posted: 2014-02-20 08:55 am   Permalink

The product information for Tiki Blend continues with, "Create global mash-ups where Central America meets the Pacific Rim by adding MONIN Tiki Blend to your margarita."

Since when is a maragarita from Central America?


 
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2014-02-20 09:08 am   Permalink

Here's their recipe for a Mai Tai: http://www.monin.com/us-en/printpdf/43995
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AceExplorer
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Posted: 2014-02-20 09:09 am   Permalink

It's not. But if this progression continues, they'll eventually suggest you can add their tiki syrup to beer, coffee, cola, etc. It simply looks like marketing gone wild, then combined with sales and financial people seeing potential for increased sales. It definitely tarnishes the Monin brand by documenting apparent ignorance of, or disregard for, true cocktail recipes and origins. I'm sure the syrup is decent, but it's just not right for Monin to further bastardize classic cocktail recipes in this world where Mai Tais show up in any color of the rainbow depending on how the wind blows up the bartender's skirt.
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Posted: 2014-02-20 09:12 am   Permalink

Yup, their Mai Tai recipes are both Monin-product-centric and easy to mix in a standard/average bar and definitely not authentic. If only they would push the authentic cocktails and begin educating the masses about what we all have discovered. Their sales could only improve if they became the standard-bearer, and most everyone would win.
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Maui Chimes
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Posted: 2014-02-20 10:30 am   Permalink

yeah, i kind of disregarded their verbiage about making an authentic....blah, blah...You do make a great point....

At the least try something like...."make your own NEW tiki concoction".... but to say that this will make an authentic Mai Tai, Zombie, is misleading.

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jingleheimerschmidt
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Posted: 2014-02-20 1:25 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2014-02-20 08:55, arriano wrote:

Since when is a maragarita from Central America?




Seriously??? Anybody that hasn't studied cocktail history associates the margarita with Mexico.


 
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2014-02-20 1:42 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2014-02-20 13:25, jingleheimerschmidt wrote:
Quote:

On 2014-02-20 08:55, arriano wrote:

Since when is a maragarita from Central America?




Seriously??? Anybody that hasn't studied cocktail history associates the margarita with Mexico.



Not to be that guy, but Wikipedia has several origin stories for the Margarita, and most of them are set in Mexico. Is there another more accepted version you can reference?
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2014-02-20 1:49 pm   Permalink

In all honesty, I'm happy to see this. It means that Tiki it still enough on the radar that it warrants its own mix from such a well-known company as Monin. I agree that their take on "authentic" tiki drinks is off the mark, but it's still exciting to see.
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Hakalugi
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Posted: 2014-02-20 1:55 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2014-02-20 13:42, TikiTacky wrote:
Quote:

On 2014-02-20 13:25, jingleheimerschmidt wrote:
Quote:

On 2014-02-20 08:55, arriano wrote:

Since when is a maragarita from Central America?




Seriously??? Anybody that hasn't studied cocktail history associates the margarita with Mexico.



Not to be that guy, but Wikipedia has several origin stories for the Margarita, and most of them are set in Mexico. Is there another more accepted version you can reference?




I think even arriano would agree that the Margarita is associated with Mexico. However, Mexico is considered part of North America, not Central America.


 
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2014-02-20 1:58 pm   Permalink

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification. I thought people were saying the Margarita wasn't from Mexico, and I was curious what the story was.
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AceExplorer
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Posted: 2014-02-20 2:03 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2014-02-20 13:49, TikiTacky wrote:
In all honesty, I'm happy to see this. It means that Tiki it still enough on the radar that it warrants its own mix from such a well-known company as Monin. I agree that their take on "authentic" tiki drinks is off the mark, but it's still exciting to see.



Very good point!
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AdOrAdam
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Posted: 2014-02-20 2:43 pm   Permalink

I use Monin products, they are not only the most available in the UK but also are good products IMO.

I rate their Orgeat most highly - it just tastes 'clean' to me (not synthetic). Their Cannelle (cinammon) is quite spicy, I tend measure a little less than required most of the time. The Passionfruit is quite dominant so I use about 2/3rds what is required & it works well. The gomme has a thick texture that adds a good mouth feel in Old Fashioneds. I also have a few others in tester size (vanilla, grenadine, hazelnut, cane syrup) which all seem reasonable.

They do have 'out there' flavours that I don't fancy (like bubble gum!?!). They also have IMO unnecessary products like mint or curaçao syrup (where you can use proper ingredients).

The marketing blurb is amusing, as the only shared ingredient across the Mai Tai / Zombie / Hurricane is dark jamaican rum - maybe it tastes like that?

I would be sceptical about a generic 'tiki syrup' but you never know, it might be alright


 
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