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Updates to The Mai-Kai Cocktail Guide on The Atomic Grog
Quince_at_Dannys
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Posted: 2016-11-17 06:45 am   Permalink

First off, thanks to Hurricane Hayward for his extensive research on Kohala Bay and its various substitutions!

I've been playing with blends for awhile. I had been playing around with a Coruba/Hamilton Pot Still/Appleton Signature mixture, but when I found out the Mai Kai was using Appleton Reserve, I immediately altered course and came up with the following:

5 parts Appleton Reserve Blend
1 part Lemon Hart 151
1 part Hamilton Black Pot Still Rum

The Reserve delivers most of the rich flavor and the Hamilton brings the funk. It's possible Kohala Bay actually contains (contained) some of the same rums as Appleton Reserve with the addition of funkier pot still varieties.
The LH 151 in the mix is basically to get the ABV in the ballpark without disrupting the overall flavor profile.

The net result: a 91 proof Dark Jamaican that is very close in flavor Kohala Bay and mixes like a champ. There is a missing high note, but it's a subtle difference. The original Kohala Bay would have been proofed down from higher proof barrels of rum instead of incorporating a foreign element like Lemon Hart, so that accounts for the difference.


 
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lll888
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Posted: 2016-11-17 5:40 pm   Permalink

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lll888
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Posted: 2016-11-18 07:27 am   Permalink

Does anyone know how the El 12/S&C blend compares with Coruba and KB?

 
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LeftarmofBuddha
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Posted: 2016-11-18 5:39 pm   Permalink

I haven't been able to try Kohala Bay but I can get Coruba very easily here in middle Tennessee, thankfully. I can compare Coruba to the Smith & Cross/ El Dorado 12 mix. Coruba is heavy on the molasses and brown sugar with a nice amount of funk. It tastes almost cheap but in a good way, if that makes sense. The SC/ED12 mix is complex, rich, funky in a sophisticated way from the S&C. Coruba almost punches through a bit more with its heavier molasses flavor but the mix definitely stands out in cocktail. Both are great, Coruba is just obviously much cheaper. I have been mixing Hamilton pot still black and Appleton reserve 1:1. A lot of people on here seem to find the Hamilton too funky but I love it as long as it's mixed with something milder.

 
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lll888
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Posted: 2016-11-18 5:51 pm   Permalink

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On 2016-11-18 17:39, LeftarmofBuddha wrote:
I haven't been able to try Kohala Bay but I can get Coruba very easily here in middle Tennessee, thankfully. I can compare Coruba to the Smith & Cross/ El Dorado 12 mix. Coruba is heavy on the molasses and brown sugar with a nice amount of funk. It tastes almost cheap but in a good way, if that makes sense. The SC/ED12 mix is complex, rich, funky in a sophisticated way from the S&C. Coruba almost punches through a bit more with its heavier molasses flavor but the mix definitely stands out in cocktail. Both are great, Coruba is just obviously much cheaper. I have been mixing Hamilton pot still black and Appleton reserve 1:1. A lot of people on here seem to find the Hamilton too funky but I love it as long as it's mixed with something milder.



Perfect description! Thank you. Today I made:


5 parts Appleton Reserve Blend
1 part Plantation OFTD
1 part Hamilton Black Pot Still Rum

Cant wait to try...


 
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LeftarmofBuddha
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Posted: 2016-11-18 6:45 pm   Permalink

I actually just snagged a bottle of O.F.T.D. for the first time today and wow, is it delicious! Should be making something from Hurricane Hayward's Mai Kai tribute recipes tonight using it as the overproof demarara.

 
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lll888
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Posted: 2016-11-18 7:04 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2016-11-17 06:45, Quince_at_Dannys wrote:
First off, thanks to Hurricane Hayward for his extensive research on Kohala Bay and its various substitutions!

I've been playing with blends for awhile. I had been playing around with a Coruba/Hamilton Pot Still/Appleton Signature mixture, but when I found out the Mai Kai was using Appleton Reserve, I immediately altered course and came up with the following:

5 parts Appleton Reserve Blend
1 part Lemon Hart 151
1 part Hamilton Black Pot Still Rum




As mentioned earlier, I made the mix today and gave a Corn and Oil (w/ DYI Falernum ala Keiserpinguin) and Planters Punch a shot. In-fucking-credible. I'm shocked a the level of deliciousness and smells. Tiki nirvana... What we obsess over... man... thank you!


 
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lll888
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Posted: 2016-11-18 8:54 pm   Permalink

On a side note:

'My girlfriend walked into the kitchen and noticed only 1 bottle on the counter. She then yelled sarcastically "looks like someone cleaned up in here!". No, I didn't clean up... I just used one botttle of rum instead of the usual 7 this evening &#128514;. It's the first time I've ever used a single bottle for cocktail night!


 
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Hurricane Hayward
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Posted: 2016-11-19 11:49 pm   Permalink

Mahalo Quince_at_Dannys for another great contribution! This will definitely expedite my purchase of Hamilton Black, which is hard to find in South Florida. Sounds like a viable alternative to Kohala Bay.

And good to see the other suggestions as well. Plantation OFTD might be the better alternative to Lemon Hart 151 in this blend. Again, I'm still waiting to get my hands on some, but I hear that its arrival is imminent.

Keep those experiments coming!

HH

Quote:

On 2016-11-17 06:45, Quince_at_Dannys wrote:
First off, thanks to Hurricane Hayward for his extensive research on Kohala Bay and its various substitutions!

I've been playing with blends for awhile. I had been playing around with a Coruba/Hamilton Pot Still/Appleton Signature mixture, but when I found out the Mai Kai was using Appleton Reserve, I immediately altered course and came up with the following:

5 parts Appleton Reserve Blend
1 part Lemon Hart 151
1 part Hamilton Black Pot Still Rum

The Reserve delivers most of the rich flavor and the Hamilton brings the funk. It's possible Kohala Bay actually contains (contained) some of the same rums as Appleton Reserve with the addition of funkier pot still varieties.
The LH 151 in the mix is basically to get the ABV in the ballpark without disrupting the overall flavor profile.

The net result: a 91 proof Dark Jamaican that is very close in flavor Kohala Bay and mixes like a champ. There is a missing high note, but it's a subtle difference. The original Kohala Bay would have been proofed down from higher proof barrels of rum instead of incorporating a foreign element like Lemon Hart, so that accounts for the difference.



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Hurricane Hayward
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Posted: 2016-11-20 12:14 am   Permalink

Catching up on tribute recipe updates in the wake of tasting the last of the "lost cocktails" in September at the book release parties for "Mai-Kai: History and Mystery of the Iconic Tiki Restaurant."

If you still don't have the book yet, what are you waiting for? You can grab a copy on Amazon:
http://amzn.to/2gjd8BV

Or make plans now to attend the 60th anniversary party on Dec. 28, where Swanky will be signing copies and doing another special presentation. We hear there might also be more lost cocktails available. More info here:
https://www.facebook.com/events/1246773212034840/



Hanalei Bay was perhaps the shortest lived cocktail from the original 1956 menu. We have seen it on the 1966 and 1968 menus, but it was gone by 1970.

http://www.slammie.com/atomicgrog/blog/2012/11/20/lost-cocktails-of-the-mai-kai-take-a-trip-back-to-hanalei-bay-where-zombies-lurk/

Here's our updated tribute recipe ...



http://www.slammie.com/atomicgrog/blog/2012/11/20/lost-cocktails-of-the-mai-kai-take-a-trip-back-to-hanalei-bay-where-zombies-lurk/#tribute

Also featured at the September events was the mysterious and distinctive Dr. Fong, inspired by Don the Beachcomber's classic Doctor Funk.



http://www.slammie.com/atomicgrog/blog/2013/02/03/lost-cocktails-of-the-mai-kai-the-late-dr-fong-has-a-funky-and-famous-history/

There's a fascinating back-story you need to check out, which will explain the significance of the above photo being taken in The Mai-Kai's Samoa Room.

Since tasting, we now have v.2 of the tribute recipe, which now comes closer stylistically to the 1953 version of Doctor Funk by Don the Beachcomber.



http://www.slammie.com/atomicgrog/blog/2013/02/03/lost-cocktails-of-the-mai-kai-the-late-dr-fong-has-a-funky-and-famous-history/#tribute

Okole maluna!



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Quince_at_Dannys
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From: Command Records International HQ
Posted: 2016-11-20 09:56 am   Permalink

Thanks! Glad it's working for you. I really like your change of using OFTD instead of LH151--keeps the flavor profiles "in the family." I might have to make a batch using that modification.

Like Hurricane Hayward said, let's keep the experimentation going. Tiki Nirvana is within reach for sure.

On a side note---MAN, would I like to get my hands on some Dagger... I feel like a duplicate blend could happen



Quote:

On 2016-11-18 19:04, lll888 wrote:
Quote:

On 2016-11-17 06:45, Quince_at_Dannys wrote:
First off, thanks to Hurricane Hayward for his extensive research on Kohala Bay and its various substitutions!

I've been playing with blends for awhile. I had been playing around with a Coruba/Hamilton Pot Still/Appleton Signature mixture, but when I found out the Mai Kai was using Appleton Reserve, I immediately altered course and came up with the following:

5 parts Appleton Reserve Blend
1 part Lemon Hart 151
1 part Hamilton Black Pot Still Rum




As mentioned earlier, I made the mix today and gave a Corn and Oil (w/ DYI Falernum ala Keiserpinguin) and Planters Punch a shot. In-fucking-credible. I'm shocked a the level of deliciousness and smells. Tiki nirvana... What we obsess over... man... thank you!



 
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Hurricane Hayward
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Posted: 2016-11-23 07:08 am   Permalink

Mai-Kai tribute recipes continue to pop at bars across the country. Hanalei Bay was recently spotted in Texas ...




 
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Hurricane Hayward
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Posted: 2016-11-25 09:43 am   Permalink

I'm continuing to remove cinnamon syrup from all the tribute recipes. The latest to be updated is Oh So Deadly ...



http://www.slammie.com/atomicgrog/blog/2011/10/22/mai-kai-cocktail-review-a-delicious-and-oh-so-deadly-treat/

There's also new photos and lots of info, including confirmation of Fee Brothers as the falernum brand used in-house. Oh So Deadly was revamped recently to add a big burst of falernum. If you haven't had it in a few years, it's definitely worth revisiting ...



http://www.slammie.com/atomicgrog/blog/2011/10/22/mai-kai-cocktail-review-a-delicious-and-oh-so-deadly-treat/#tribute

Okole maluna!

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Hurricane Hayward
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Posted: 2016-12-01 7:57 pm   Permalink



SPECIAL EVENT: The Mai-Kai’s 60th Anniversary Symposia Series & Customer Celebration Party – Wednesday, Dec. 28. Featuring presentations by authors Sven Kirsten and Tim "Swanky" Glazner brought to you by Tiki Kiliki Productions. Plus enjoy dinner shows, live music, and food and drink specials all night. Doors open at 1:30, symposia begin at 2, happy hour at 3:30, signings at 4, live music at 6, dinner shows at 7 and 9:30 (not included in ticket for symposiums! Call The Mai-Kai to make your reservation).

You must buy a ticket to attend the symposia. Available now at
http://TikiKiliki.com/ and at The Mai-Kai. For dinner reservations, call (954) 563-3272.

Full event preview from The Atomic Grog: http://wp.me/p1xHjT-3z4

And yes, there will be "lost cocktails" served during this event! Details TBA.




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rbeyer68
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Posted: 2016-12-08 5:59 pm   Permalink

I scored some fresh white grapefruit recently and decided to make the Tribute to the Mai Kai K.O. Cooler (July 2015 edition). In addition to the white grapefruit juice I used Havana Club Anejo Blanco (Bacardi), O.V.D. demerara and Hamilton 151.

Wow! What a drink. Very impressed and it has become one of my favorites with this rum / juice combination.

Rick


 
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