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Pernod Help
Tiki Mdn
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Posted: 2014-03-14 12:03 pm   Permalink

I am trying to stock up my home bar but have a question about Pernod. In jeff berry books it call for drops of Pernod, however when I went to the liqour store I see they have 2 different ones. One I believe is pastil and is around $30 while the other is absente or something and is about $60. My question is which one should I be using in my dropper bottle. Any help is greatly appreciated

 
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Swanky
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Posted: 2014-03-14 12:08 pm   Permalink

Pernod is also a name brand. Pernod Ricard.

You want
this stuff.

You can also use Herbsaint, which is what I use now.

Find the smallest bottle possible. You are going to use it very slowly. I have been making these drinks for a decade and am on my second bottle and the first was like 500ml!
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Tiki Mdn
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Posted: 2014-03-14 12:19 pm   Permalink

This is the bottle I am seeing is this correct? If so again there are 2 different ones with basically the same label. One just say pastil while the other says absente and is $30 more. I attached a picture of the bottle.






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Tiki Mdn
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Posted: 2014-03-14 12:26 pm   Permalink

Ok I didn't see your link at first. So it's the pastis, that's good that's the cheaper one. Thank for your quick help.



 
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2014-03-14 12:45 pm   Permalink

Pernod has a strong licorice flavor. Very, VERY strong. A lot of people who try it don't like it or find it's too easy to overpower a drink. Personally I hate licorice so, although I may not be making some drinks historically accurate, I leave it out.

 
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happy buddha
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Posted: 2014-03-14 1:48 pm   Permalink

Pernod is used to add dimension to a drink, like bitters do. If you leave it out, you're throwing off the balance.

Unless you're making something like a Zula or a Dr. Funk, you're not gonna taste licorice. But it is powerful; use a dropper.


 
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2014-03-14 6:39 pm   Permalink

Here's a good thread talking about the Perils of Pernod: http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=12910&forum=10&hilite=Pernod
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Swanky
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Posted: 2014-03-15 06:27 am   Permalink

This is another use for the old bitters bottles. Clean it well then fill it with Pernod/Herbsaint. Now you can use it to measure out small drops. NOT dashes as with bitters. I am not a fan of the licorice and my wife really doesn't like it, so I keep it well under the radar and this method helps a lot. Much easier than an eye dropper or other method. It delivers very tiny amounts you can count and control.
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thePorpoise
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Posted: 2014-03-15 1:46 pm   Permalink

I simply use a 1/8 teaspoon measure, which is approx a dash.

 
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2014-03-15 2:18 pm   Permalink

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On 2014-03-15 13:46, thePorpoise wrote:
I simply use a 1/8 teaspoon measure, which is approx a dash.



Actually, 1/8 tsp is exactly a dash. 1/16 tsp is a pinch, and 1/32 tsp is a smidgen.




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thePorpoise
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Posted: 2014-03-15 3:06 pm   Permalink

how bout drops? i always thought a dash = approx 3-4 drops.

 
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wizzard419
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Posted: 2014-03-16 3:29 pm   Permalink

A technique I have seen used for the liquors used for coating the glass (common with Pernod, Absinthe, etc) is to load it into a mini sprayer and give it a hit or two so that you get better coverage without having to pour some down the drain.

 
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Kill Devil
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Posted: 2014-03-17 06:41 am   Permalink

My two cents: get the cheaper bottle, and do not leave the Pernod out! I'm not a big fan of Absinthe/Ouzo/Sambuca, but just a small amount of Pernod called for in the classic Donn Beach drinks (Zombie,Jet Pilot, etc) makes a CRUCIAL difference in the flavor profile.

 
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AdOrAdam
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Posted: 2014-03-17 11:44 am   Permalink

I think pernod represents one of the 'final frontiers' in tiki drinks. I say one of the 'final frontiers' because they are of lots of little things to master!

I first started out trying pernod in drinks like Doctor Funk & the Test Pilot - I approximated the pernod using teaspoons & the like, these drinks were difficult. After this I finally got an eye dropper & 1/8th teaspoon measure spoon, using pernod got a lot easier. I wouldn't recommend using pernod without these!

The first drink I found with pernod in that I liked was the Montego Bay. On paper the Montego Bay is not too dissimilar to many other drinks but the the honey / pimento / pernod combo crowns the drink.

NB: in my initial attempts I was able to 'cover up' my over pernod pouring by adding extra honey mix.

I regularly use pernod now & think it's better to use less than required when trying out a new drink. I usually add half the amount the recipe requires & taste before adding a bit more.

Drinks that I quite like with it in include: the Montego Bay, Jet Pilot, 1934 Zombie & the Beachcomber Rum Barrel.

I think the intended use of pernod is not to add sufficient amount to create a 'pernod' flavour, more enough to tip the balance & make you wonder 'what is that?'. I think when used correctly it gives a 'icy cold' sensation to a drink rather than a dominant flavour.

I agree with all comments saying 'get a small bottle'. I tend to steer clear of substituting pernod for absinthe (& visa versa), I just have pernod & absinthe in my home bar.

A little spray bottle of absinthe really works well, especially if you are making Sazeracs or Corpse Reviver No2s

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mamelukkikala
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Posted: 2014-03-17 12:24 pm   Permalink

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On 2014-03-15 06:27, Swanky wrote:
This is another use for the old bitters bottles. Clean it well then fill it with Pernod/Herbsaint. Now you can use it to measure out small drops. NOT dashes as with bitters. I am not a fan of the licorice and my wife really doesn't like it, so I keep it well under the radar and this method helps a lot. Much easier than an eye dropper or other method. It delivers very tiny amounts you can count and control.




This is what I do. Very handy and fast. Though I don't measure 6 drops, I just add a dash. I think it's fine and not overpowering for me. It's also good to have some Pimento Dram in an old bitters bottle since some drinks call for it like 1/4tsp which would be 2 dashes. Making a Montego Bay has never been easier.


 
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