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what is the update on bahooka's rufus??? the dreaded question continues?
SoCal Savage
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Posted: 2014-04-24 12:47 pm   Permalink

Thor - are you saying there are pictures of Rufus' old tank drained and empty?

Did anyone see this firsthand? It seems logical that if anyone has been over to the restaurant since they emptied it out then, they probably spoke to the people there and would have information about Rufus. If that person was on this forum it would be nice if they shared that information.

Also (as Skip said) as much as I appreciate the fundraising effort, since I (and many others here) did contribute to it it would be nice to hear an update from those folks.


 
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THOR's
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Posted: 2014-04-24 1:40 pm   Permalink

O.K...eating my lunch with Tiki Central here I think today. lol

To answer your question's "savage".

1. Yes, myself and numerous others saw photos posted on Facebook and I believe a separate thread here of the fully gutted Bahooka. I was told also by those ON SITE that Rufus's tank was part of a lot of "junk" waiting for haul away....empty.

2. Regarding the funds. I was never part of that organized effort. In fact, was never consulted on it or asked for commentary in any way regarding the fund raise. I was happy to see the passion exhibited though!!

I would suggest you contact the people who organized that. What I have heard only from side conversations, is that the reason those funds have been left to stay in the "piggy bank" a little longer was that EVERYONE was pretty certain that the issue of taking Rufas would re-surface...and that the owner would re-consider his putting Rufus in the Chinese restaurant in his proclaimed 2000 gallon new home, and ask for him to be taken off his hands again after the hype settled. What has happened so far, unless it still could unfold differently, is that Rufus was again "given the boot" by the current owner, but instead of contacting any of us, took care of it his "own way". The factor we need to know with certainty is HOW he took care of this matter this time. Many are still hoping he might be in a holding tank somewhere and could be possibly attained still and the funding plan activated as intended to get Rufas to Damon's.

Again, I am not in any contact with the new owner or information details. Fez Moai and perhaps any remaining former Bahooka staff that might frequent or hang out at the site and speak to this owner would need to step forward with information, IF it exists. The main point I am stressing is..."his word"(the owner) means nothing at this point. We really need some solid visual and eye witness evidence, or as I said...this whole story needs the fuse re-lit and I tell yah, if the news we uncover is at all ambiguous or tragic, the fuse is going to ignite one HELL of an explosion!!!!!!!


 
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Posted: 2014-04-24 3:03 pm   Permalink

SoCal Savage it was Tiki Al who was at the Bahooka a few weeks ago
and whom posted the pictures, he did ask the workers there about Rufus
but did not get any answers & was asked to leave.

I am not saying Fez Moai is a part of this, but he is friends with the owner
and is in contact with the owner, he has talked to him, but Fez doesn't seem to want to share
that information with us at this time, I find that extremely worrisome

Maybe someone here who is on friendly terms with Fez Moai can contact him for this info?
I myself have tried to call Jorge, with no luck, Fez says he is in Mexico
which means he is not here taking care of Rufus & that raises another red flag.


 
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2014-04-24 11:59 pm   Permalink

Thanks, Fez. I know you've put a lot of time into this so far, and hopefully you'll have good news soon.

 
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THOR's
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Posted: 2014-04-25 07:14 am   Permalink

Aloha Tiki Tacky!
I don't think we have heard yet from Fez recently this week. This thread is my doing. I understand he is trying to keep the "relationship" with this owner that he has gotten to know a bit socially through his interests in the salvage of the Bahooka items. But, At this point, anyone who can communicate with this owner without making him further hide away is fair game to possible info. But with caution. His English is poor, I have heard. If anyone speaks Mandarin that is a big plus!

This is sort of like talking through a hostage situation!! Haaa Yah gotta negotiate the "actions" with care and the right "words" for fear of the entire thing going up in smoke! lol

Here is my concern regarding time. IF Rufus is still with us and in a place where his conditions are not ideal or correct, each day that passes risks his ever being able to survive this. SO we really don't have a limited time, and have to assume this attitude since we just don't have enough info to assure a good situation otherwise. This is my reason for pushing this issue to yield some results and the sense of urgency. I fully realize it's a fine line, but we just can't wait indefinitely, which I believe most would agree, thinking this through.

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SoCal Savage
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Posted: 2014-04-25 11:49 am   Permalink

Thor - thanks for the info. I'm not on Facebook anymore and if there was a thread with pics on here I must have missed it. I agree with everything you've said and considering who they are and their ties to this community, I actually trust that the folks behind the fundraiser will reach out when the time is right/the Rufus situation is resolved.

When this was going on originally I was in contact with El Jefe on here and I think he may be friendly with or at least in contact with Fez (Jefe apologies in advance if this isn't true).





 
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2014-04-25 3:18 pm   Permalink

Actually, my post was in a response to one from Fez Moai from late last night. It appears to have been deleted, which I don't understand as I didn't think users could delete posts? I'm assuming there's a reason why it was deleted so I won't repeat it, but color me confused.

 
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THOR's
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Posted: 2014-04-25 3:41 pm   Permalink

I would like some more of the community to kick in with suggestions. Like I mentioned earlier, my thought is to give it through the weekend and go to a "plan B". I have my ideas but hoping with over 2000 hits viewing this thread thus far, we get some more thoughts other than the half dozen so far expressing concern.

It's just getting really dismal waiting much longer.... Not unlike a "missing person"...the longer it goes with no signs or answers, the odds drop rapidly as to a positive outcome.







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tikiskip
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Posted: 2014-04-25 4:10 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2014-04-16 12:15, Fez Moai wrote:
I'll give Kari a call today.



The owner of new Bahooka owes us nothing, in fact I'm sure he's pissed at us.
But there are others that should give an update here.
Did Fez call Kari 9 days ago?
Was there a meeting like two months ago?

The holder of the fund raiser cash should post an update.
At this time that is the only person that has an obligation to us really.

I would think the new owner knows it would not be good if this fish dies.
He could be hiding that fact (Rufus may be dead)so he can get his restaurant up and running before
anyone finds out.
Don't think that people will forget this though.
Would be best to clear the air now cuz it's starting to smell fishy.


 
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Hakalugi
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Posted: 2014-04-25 4:52 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2014-04-25 15:18, TikiTacky wrote:
Actually, my post was in a response to one from Fez Moai from late last night. It appears to have been deleted, which I don't understand as I didn't think users could delete posts? I'm assuming there's a reason why it was deleted so I won't repeat it, but color me confused.



I'm pretty sure no moderator would delete his post, unless it was by Fez's request. I never received such a request. There have in the past been occasional system glitches where posts have been lost, but other than this one missing post from Fez I've not heard of any others.

Instead of us waiting around for Fez to check in, please share with us what was in his post.


 
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Fez Moai
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Posted: 2014-04-25 5:01 pm   Permalink

I did speak to Kari and gave her the same info that I'm posting here, so please don't blow up her inbox with questions guys. Rufus is Ok and is being taken care of. Alan Zhu needed him out of the restaurant to start the remodel, which is a good thing. Too many people were stirring the pot before and it wasn't conducive to making an agreement. So I have to keep it on a need-to-know type of basis, like James Bond. This mission requires Seal Team precision and not an Army invasion. It's easier for someone with a working relationship like me to deal with him. There are cultural, language, and timing nuances that must be taken into consideration if this is to succeed. I need you guys to turn down the temperature a bit and give me some time to work something out. Certain roadblocks have fallen to the wayside which favor our cause. I understand the frustration and the concern and hopefully someday soon we'll all have a Mai Tai with Rufus again. Thanks!

 
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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From: Costa Misery
Posted: 2014-04-25 5:14 pm   Permalink

That's a bunch of bullshit Fez!

All that we want to know is where is Rufus?
what is up with his current living conditions/housing
and a photo, is that to much to ask for?

What is stopping you from sharing that info?
and why would it take a couple of weeks for you to reply

we are not talking about any future plans the owner has for Rufus at this time
we just want to know if he is alive for christ sakes!


 
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2014-04-25 5:36 pm   Permalink

ATP, I understand your concern but yelling and cursing isn't going to help. Fez already indicated that Rufus was OK, and that he was being cared for. But I agree, the lack of details is unsettling and doesn't make a lot of sense, and hopefully Fez will be able to explain soon. Pardon the pun, but it definitely smells fishy.



 
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2014-04-25 5:38 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2014-04-25 16:52, Hakalugi wrote:
Quote:

On 2014-04-25 15:18, TikiTacky wrote:
Actually, my post was in a response to one from Fez Moai from late last night. It appears to have been deleted, which I don't understand as I didn't think users could delete posts? I'm assuming there's a reason why it was deleted so I won't repeat it, but color me confused.



I'm pretty sure no moderator would delete his post, unless it was by Fez's request. I never received such a request. There have in the past been occasional system glitches where posts have been lost, but other than this one missing post from Fez I've not heard of any others.

Instead of us waiting around for Fez to check in, please share with us what was in his post.



Eh, it wasn't anything earth shattering. He said he was still trying to get details and urged people to be patient. He was clearly exasperated.


 
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Fez Moai
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Posted: 2014-04-25 5:46 pm   Permalink

tiki punk just showed exactly why I don't post much info.

 
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