||what is the update on bahooka's rufus??? the dreaded question continues?
Grand Member (8 years)
Joined: Nov 26, 2005
|Posted: 2014-04-26 8:46 pm  Permalink|
"If any of you think this owner OWES anyone information or an explanation you guys are pretty delusional because he doesn't."
"I personally hope Rufus and any other fish that were left in there are still alive and happy but you guys need to move on because the owner obviously has. It doesn't matter if you call the news or post on this thread for months to come--as soon as the owners of Bahooka sold off their building including the animals inside the new owner has all the power to do WHATEVER he wants because he used HIS money to legally buy and do to that property and the contents within whatever he wanted and there is not a damn thing anyone can do about it."
I have said this too, but The people who did the fund raiser DO owe people an explanation or a refund.
And yes Mr Zhu can do whatever he wants with the fish as he bought it,
But he can also get some very bad press and people have the right to not go to his new restaurant and give him bad vibes from here to eternity.
It's just not a good deal any way you slice it.
There is a thing called integrity, you have it or you do not.
Those who do not have integrity will be found out in the end, and if you want to run a business in a
way that does not have integrity most of the time this does not go well for you or your place of business.
Joined: Nov 23, 2010
|Posted: 2014-04-26 9:27 pm  Permalink|
I sure hope the rumors of Rufus being released into a koi pond aren't true—if they are, then that would almost certainly kill him (pacu are tropical fish and need water temperatures close to 80°F). Still, it sounds suspicious. Why would they do such a thing? Anyone who knows anything about fish—which I would assume would include the owner of a koi pond—should know that this would be a death sentence. If anything, it sounds like a cover story. The ichthyo equivalent of "Your doggy went to live on a farm."
But some things still don't make sense. Fez said he heard Rufus was fine and was trying to get more info "James Bond" style. Now that ATP has told his story, Fez isn't contradicting it, just getting angry at ATP. What are we missing? What more is there to know?
This whole thing stinks. I agree that the owner wasn't beholden to anyone, but it's still a tragic tale.
Joined: Sep 13, 2008
|Posted: 2014-04-26 9:51 pm  Permalink|
I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
These fish threads are the most embarrassing things on TC.
Sandra Dee, nicely spoken post. Like an island in the stream..
Joined: Apr 30, 2004
|Posted: 2014-04-26 9:59 pm  Permalink|
I am freaking STUNNED… I haven't checked in on this thread since this morning. Really am almost speechless. I will let this play out a bit longer….and kill it if it just ends up being an ego banter much longer. I stopped coming on TC for a while because of this sort of thing. it takes the spirit and fun out of everything this site was created for.
Let me say one thing about the "owner" and what I feel is very fair to expect from him. It is called a "MORAL" obligation. Tiki Skip…you said It also..it's called INTEGRITY. This is what I stand for and expect, and it's something NO ONE can debate is not true humanity.
I agree, this entire thing STINKS! It represents insensitivity and selfish thinking. Also, I feel IF Rufus WAS in fact released into this freaking "pond" which I don't even fully believe yet, it is true that the likelihood of survival is faint. You don't take a fish that has adjusted to the tropical fish temperature ranges which would be, at coldest in the lo 70's and put it in an outdoor pond where temps drop into the 50's or 60's. That is bone dumb.
I am disgusted at this entire thing. The "fish threads" are far from what is embarrassing on this site…there was good intent in this cause..and a worth while one TO ANYONE WITH HEART! it's the attitudes that are the problem, "Buddha"! I did my best to hold a focus and community and again, we get ego's dismantling any progress or help for this damn fish. Why did it also take this long to get even these "claimed truths" out about Rufus?
I do intend to contact the press to update them on this story Monday. If they are not interested …fine. I can say I did all I could. I also will do all I can to uncover the truth..and will "get over it" when I achieve that! I don't support the way Mr. Zhu handled this AT ALL. His choices have shown a spirit insensitive not just for this animal, but to the community he is setting up business in to take $ from.…and that is a trait that serves no man or animal and I hope Karma DOES take it's course. I hope people speak up too and not support a business run by such a negative energy.
I am done for the night…feeling the need to get off this site and call it a night.
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Joined: Sep 13, 2008
|Posted: 2014-04-26 10:19 pm  Permalink|
I agree Thor. It's the attitudes that are the problem.
I actually think that there is more to this fish tale that will play out.
Joined: Apr 30, 2004
|Posted: 2014-04-26 10:27 pm  Permalink|
Well said Happy Buddha….I very much agree! ~Night
Joined: Oct 11, 2004
|Posted: 2014-04-27 08:54 am  Permalink|
What a freaking clown show! I'm actually embarrassed I donated money to this. I know that I'd like my money back though. I hope that no one eats at this new restaurant. The owner doesn't owe the tiki community anything but he has presented himself as a tool. Tiki Punk has issues simply put. Fez needs to own up a little more since he put himself in the limelight so-to-speak. Just my 2 cents of course. I hope the best for Rufus and the rest of the fish. Maybe, just maybe, this will have a crazy good ending. Lord knows it has been crazy to this point.
Grand Member (first year)
Joined: Feb 24, 2007
From: los angeles
|Posted: 2014-04-27 10:49 am  Permalink|
Can't we all just get along?
Joined: Jul 27, 2012
|Posted: 2014-04-27 11:08 am  Permalink|
On 2014-04-27 10:49, ron-tiki wrote:
Can't we all just get along?
I was hearing the late Rodney King's words in my head all day yesterday following this thread..
The Island is Calling......
[ This Message was edited by: LostIsland 2014-04-27 11:08 ]
Joined: Sep 19, 2009
|Posted: 2014-04-27 11:55 am  Permalink|
I'm reminded of this fishy cinderalla story
"Ye Xian" (simplified Chinese: 叶 限; traditional Chinese: 葉 限; pinyin: Yè Xiàn) or Yeh-Shen is a Chinese fairy tale that is similar to the European Cinderella story (but about a millennium older) and the Malay-Indonesian Bawang Putih Bawang Merah tale. It is one of the oldest known variants of Cinderella, first published in the 9th-century compilation Miscellaneous Morsels from Youyang.
In a community of cave-dwellers called Wudoung, their chief by the name of Wu had two wives and a daughter by each of them. Yeh-Shen is Wu's daughter of one wife, and she is extremely beautiful and kind, and gifted in many skills such as pottery and poetry. In contrast, her half-sister Jun-li is plain-looking, selfish and lazy, and both she and her mother, Wu's other wife, envy the attention Wu lavishes upon Yeh-Shen. Yeh-Shen's mother died while she was still a baby, so Wu did all he could to raise his motherless daughter.
Unfortunately, Yeh-Shen's father dies from a local plague, and a new chieftain was appointed to take his place, as Wu had no sons. With her family reduced to poverty, Yeh-Shen is forced to become a lowly servant and work for her scheming stepmother and envious older sister (in the original tale, it is her younger sister, because of the value of superiority in Chinese culture. But due to later influence, Ye was cast as the youngest child). Despite living a life burdened with chores and housework, and suffering endless abuse at her stepmother's hands, she finds solace when she ends up befriending a beautiful, 10-foot-long (3.0 m) fish in the lake near her home, with golden eyes and scales. The fish was really a guardian spirit sent to her by her own mother, who never forgot her daughter even beyond the grave.
One day, Jun-li follows Yeh-Shen to the lake, and discovers her talking to the fish, Angry that Yeh-Shen has found happiness, she told her mother everything that she had seen. The cruel woman tricked Yeh-Shen into giving her the tattered dress she wears, and by this, catches and kills the fish and serves it for dinner for herself and Jun-li. Yeh-Shen is devastated until the spirit of an old man, possibly one of her ancestors or her maternal grandfather, in a white robe with a white hair, appears and tells her to bury the bones of the fish in four pots and hide each pot at the corners under her bed. The spirit also tells her that whatever she needs will be granted if she talks to the bones.
Once in a year, the New Year Festival was to be celebrated. This is also the time for the young maidens to meet potential husbands. Not wishing to spoil her own daughter's chances, the stepmother forces her stepdaughter to remain home and clean their cave-house. After her step-family has left for the festival, Yeh-Shen is visited by the fish's spirit again. She makes a silent wish to the bones and Yeh-Shen finds herself clothed magnificently, in a gown of sea-green silk, a cloak of kingfisher feathers and a pair of golden slippers.
Yeh-Shen goes to the festival by foot. She is admired by everyone, in particular the young men who believed her to be a princess, and enjoys herself until she realizes that Jun-Li may have recognized her and leaves, accidentally leaving behind a golden slipper (in the original version Ye's sister tells her that she resembles her elder sister). When she arrives home, she hides her finery and the remaining slipper under her bed. The fish bones were silent now, however, for it warned Yeh-Shen before not to lose even one of her slippers. Sadly, she falls asleep under a tree. Her step family return from the festival and mention a mysterious beauty who appeared at the festival, but are unaware that it is Yeh-Shen they are speaking of.
The golden slipper is found by a local peasant who trades it, and it is passed on to various people until it reaches the hands of the nearby king of the To'Han islets, a powerful kingdom covering thousands of small islands. Fascinated by the shoe's small size,  he issues a search to find the maiden whose foot will fit into the shoe and proclaims he will marry that girl. The search extends until it reaches the community of the cave-dwellers, and everyone, including Jun-Li, the late chief Wu's firstborn, tried the slipper. But by what magic, it seemed to shrink its size whenever touching a maiden's foot. Despondent that he could not find the woman he was searching for, the king made a great pavilion and placed the shoe there on display. Yeh-Shen arrives there late in the evening to retrieve the slipper, but is mistaken as a thief. Yeh-Shen then was brought before the king, and there she told him everything about her life, how she lost her friend, the gold-eyed fish, and now her slipper. The king, struck by her gentle nature and beauty even though she lived in the land of the savages, believed her and allowed her to go home with the slipper.
The next morning, the king goes into Yeh-Shen's house and asks her to come with him into his kingdom. Yeh-Shen then wears both her shoes, and appears in her beautiful sea-green gown. The stepmother and Jun-li, however, said that Yeh-Shen could not have clothes of that kind, for she was only their slave, and the stepmother said that the finery was Jun-li's and Yeh-Shen stole them. The king dismisses her lies, and invites Yeh-Shen to live at the palace with him as his wife and queen. She accepts, but her cruel step-family was left with their fate, which is to be banished to the wilderness by the king forever. They live a harsh, unhappy life until the day they were killed by a rain of fiery stones. On the other hand the king takes Yeh-Shen into his kingdom and makes her his queen.
|Atomic Tiki Punk|
Joined: Jul 19, 2009
From: Costa Misery
|Posted: 2014-04-27 12:19 pm  Permalink|
It is very simple to prove this information wrong
By posting "proof of life" but it would have to come from a trusted source like Thor or Kari
How hard would that be to set up if what we have been told is not true?
Why has Fez not refuted any of this? Or say what he has been hiding from this community
If it differs from what we know now?
What is this "secret mission" he has alluded to in his posts & what does that have to do
to letting us know where Rufus was relocated? it really makes no sense!
I don't know what Fez's agenda is, but it's not ours, I only want to know the truth here!
how is that having issues? ted tiki.
As for the several "people" and I say that in name only, who think if a person owns
An animal that it is OK to murder it, well you have something very terribly wrong with you!
And it is these same people who have received gifts or bought Bahooka items from Fez
Which he posted about right here on TC after receiving support from, So not biased at all?
I have to question the intelligence of anyone here who can't see that something "Fishy" is going on
and feel the need to jump all over me, just for pressing for the truth.
Grand Member (2 years)
Joined: Dec 01, 2013
From: Parts unknown
|Posted: 2014-04-27 12:49 pm  Permalink|
It's sad that a lunatic can rant on here and get away with slander. Yet I am warned to be careful. You guys do what you want, I'm out.
|Atomic Tiki Punk|
Joined: Jul 19, 2009
From: Costa Misery
|Posted: 2014-04-27 1:13 pm  Permalink|
Let's hear your side of the story
If what we heard is wrong, what is really happening with Rufus?
Do you deny anything I have said?
You can prove me wrong right now with just some proof of life
Yet all you do is attack & threaten me, when all along I have only asked you the questions
We all would like to have answers to, I was vending at the marketplace the entire day until closing, why did you not come to me
And have your say?
"It is only slander if it is not true"
[ This Message was edited by: Atomic Tiki Punk 2014-04-27 13:25 ]
Grand Member (5 years)
Joined: Jan 16, 2010
|Posted: 2014-04-27 1:14 pm  Permalink|
ATP, take a vacation.
Joined: Aug 10, 2004
From: Redondo Beach, CA
|Posted: 2014-04-27 1:15 pm  Permalink|
You were warned for this:
On 2014-04-26 19:51, Fez Moai wrote:
tiki punk, you`re such a coward. as usual you didn`t have the stones to approach me at the ITMP and instead you scurry away like the miserable cock roach you are. As posted above, what I know is none of your damn business. You keep trying to paint me in a negative light you silly wanker. I`ll make sure not to miss you at the next ITMP and see if you`ll apologize for being a trouble maker.
Anybody posting vile crap like that will get warned or worse.
Read the rules again.
For the record, ATP has been warned too.
Both of you, please knock it off. ATP, you're beating a dead horse.