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Lime juice test
nvasilakes
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From: Alameda, CA
Posted: 2014-06-07 7:17 pm   Permalink

I did a lot of searching and reading on how well lime juice keeps after it's fresh squeezed. I found answers anywhere from it keeps a couple hours if left uncovered to it keeps up to a week if covered. By the way, by "keeps" I mean as good or almost as good as fresh squeezed.

While doing my research I found a topic where a large group blind tasted lime juice in limeade and overwhelmingly preferred the lime juice that was a few hours old to the lime juice that was squeezed most recently. Apparently a little oxidation is preferable.

Sometimes I just want a tiki drink and I don't want to spend the time fresh squeezing my own limes. I just want the drink quick and easy. I read several reviews on different bottled lime juices and found that, overall, most people recommend Nellie & Joe's Key Lime Juice if you have to go bottled. I bought a bottle and tasted 2 Mai Tai's side-by-side. There was no comparison at all. I had my girlfriend taste them both blind. In her words: "This one [bottled lime] tastes like fruit punch and this one [fresh squeezed lime] tastes like a cocktail." She then took the fresh squeezed version and made for the other room, asking if she could have it without waiting for a response.

So the Nellie and Joe's was a dud. I resigned myself to fresh squeezing limes every time. Then I had an idea.

On May 25th I bought a bunch of limes (they finally went down to 4/$1 at my local source) and hand pressed a little less than 24 oz of lime juice into two clean 12oz beer bottles (I'm a home-brewer). After filling, I sprayed a little inert gas (Private Reserve Wine Preserver) into the bottle, then capped it with a bottle capper. My hypothesis was that the amount of oxygen introduced to the juice while squeezing would be about equivalent to the few hour old juice that won the lime juice taste test I referenced above and that the inert gas (heavier than air) would form a barrier between the juice and the oxygen in the bottle to prevent further oxidation and degradation of flavor. I placed both bottles upright in my fridge.

Well, today, about 2 weeks later, I put my bottle to the test! I made 2 more Mai Tai's, one with fresh squeezed lime and one with the bottled stuff. By the way I made these Mai Tai's with Beach Bum Berry's recipe using: B.G. Reynolds Orgeat, Appleton Extra, Rhum Clement VSOP. I tasted each and found virtually no difference. Actually, if I had to choose, I'd pick the bottled stuff! It tasted a little more...together.

I quickly brought both to my girlfriend and had her taste each one blind. She said they tasted the same. I explained each had different lime juice and when I pressed her to pick one, she gave the bottled stuff a slight edge.

So there you have it! You can bottle your lime juice and it will keep at least 2 weeks and be as good (or better) than fresh squeezed! I still have the other 12oz bottle capped and will do another test later on. Probably 1 month or maybe even more later to see how it holds up.


 
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TikiTacky
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Posted: 2014-06-07 7:48 pm   Permalink

I'm very curious to see how this turns out.

There has been a little discussion about key limes in the past:
http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=24942&forum=10
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El Jefe
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Posted: 2014-06-07 8:23 pm   Permalink

There must be something in the air regarding Mai Tais this week. I have been wanting one all week and last night my wife and I met up with some friends and had a spur of the moment pool party. I decided that the Mai Tai was going to be the drink of the night. I also used the Berry 1944 recipe. After about 30 drinks in of hand squeezing limes for each drink I thought there has to be a better way of having lime juice on hand. We also had some of the bottled key lime juice on hand and while definitely not as good as the fresh squeezed it was not horrible. Thanks for the testing and keep us up to date.

 
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AceExplorer
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Posted: 2014-06-07 8:51 pm   Permalink

Folks, I wrote quite a bit about my "squeeze and freeze" activities here:

http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=42747&forum=10&vpost=658277

Sometimes when I want to whip up a drink quickly, all I have to do is go to my freezer for frozen lime and lemon juices in 1oz cylindrical sticks. No need to thaw the juice if you're blending the drink. Otherwise you have several choices on how to thaw the juice.

How long it lasts depends on how well you wrap the juice sticks in plastic (I use sandwich baggies, three sticks per baggie) and how cold your freezer is. I really need to take some photos and post them.
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El Jefe
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Posted: 2014-06-07 8:58 pm   Permalink

Thanks for the info Ace. Please post some photos. What ice molds are you using?

 
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nvasilakes
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Posted: 2014-06-07 9:04 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2014-06-07 20:51, AceExplorer wrote:
Folks, I wrote quite a bit about my "squeeze and freeze" activities here:

http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=42747&forum=10&vpost=658277

Sometimes when I want to whip up a drink quickly, all I have to do is go to my freezer for frozen lime and lemon juices in 1oz cylindrical sticks. No need to thaw the juice if you're blending the drink. Otherwise you have several choices on how to thaw the juice.

How long it lasts depends on how well you wrap the juice sticks in plastic (I use sandwich baggies, three sticks per baggie) and how cold your freezer is. I really need to take some photos and post them.




Ah yeah, I forgot to mention I saw several posts about freezing lime juice. I have a tiny freezer that I can barely keep ice in so I was looking for a refrigerator method. Yours looks like a good method, however!


 
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Sunny&Rummy
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Posted: 2014-06-07 9:29 pm   Permalink

I just zested 15 limes this week to make a batch of falernum and not wanting to let the juice go to waste I juiced the zested limes and froze it. If frozen lime juice is good enough for Tiki Ti it is certainly good enough for me.
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AceExplorer
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Posted: 2014-06-07 9:46 pm   Permalink

Sunny & Rummy - that's exactly what got me started freezing juice. What to do with all the yummy limes from Falernum-making activities?

El Jefe - I use "water bottle" long and skinny ice molds from Wally World.

I will post pictures. I'm trying to see if time allows me to make a batch of Falernum before I drive to the Hukilau. I drive up one day early to relax on the beach and monitor the bikinis running around there.


 
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Posted: 2014-06-16 8:10 pm   Permalink

Here is a photo of the molds I use to "squeeze & freeze" my juices:



Each "stick" is just under one fluid ounce -- actually about .95 ounces each. Note that you must use a long-handled spoon (I use an "iced tea spoon") to firmly but carefully push the juice sticks out of the mold. This helps ensure that the sticks don't break. These molds cost 2 or 3 bucks at Wally World and they're designed to make skinny ice cubes to drop into water bottles.

I freeze leftover juices into sticks and store them in baggies for future use. Three sticks in each baggie, then 3 packs of 3 (9 total) in a small carton. This allows me quite a bit of flexibility when I want to make something without having to run to the grocery store.

I will post more pics later to show my storage method. I have some leftover limes from my Hukilau trip that need to be squeezed and frozen.


 
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kkocka
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Posted: 2017-11-15 6:57 pm   Permalink

I've returned here because my lime tree is very full of ripe limes (starting to yellow which means they'll be bitter if I leave them on too long) and I'm in need of not wasting precious limes on our first harvest. So what else is a man to do than use his wife's leftover breast milk freezer bags and instead use them for lime juice? Looks like I'll have a freezer of 5-oz lime juice bags for warmer weather in 6+ months!
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MadDogMike
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Posted: 27 days ago; 8:03 pm   Permalink

I don't freeze lime juice because I don't have a tree and there are always fresh limes at the market. But I do freeze tropical juices like pineapple, mango, guava, and passionfruit pulp. Most drinks only require an ounce or less and I hate to throw out the rest of the can. I pour then in a regular ice cube tray and freeze, they are about an ounce each. To keep them from getting freezer burn or off odors, I wrap and tie them in Saran Wrap then put them in a sealed freezer bag.



 
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kkocka
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Posted: 26 days ago; 10:47 am   Permalink

Do you ever have issues with your juice cubes cracking as you get them out of the trays?
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AceExplorer
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Posted: 26 days ago; 11:35 am   Permalink

Frozen juices are a bit more pliant than water ice cubes, so you get different (generally better) results with ice trays. I also wrap mine in plastic to reduce oxidation and freeze-evaporation. The plastic wrap also helps with any other odors, although since I moved to using a dedicated upright freezer for juices, that's not really a problem. I use cheap-o sandwich baggies and store my frozen juices tightly together in long sticks. I have molds (shown in an earlier post in this thread) which are at the moment out of production and awaiting someone to come along and fund more production in China. They were being sold at Walmart and a number of other stores until the "manufacturer" and distributor exhausted their production run. [This is probably more than you wanted to know, but knowledge is a key to success, right?]

"Yes" to squeeze-n-freeze. I found that grapefruit juice, however, seems to age more rapidly than other juices and flavor intensity suffers with the passage of time. I have trees too, so I also get large volumes of juice seasonally. Lemon and lime works very well on one end of the scale and grapefruit not so well. But squeeze-n-freeze is a good solution especially for those spur-of-the-moment cocktail quests and urges that we all get...

Cheers guys!


 
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Posted: 26 days ago; 2:26 pm   Permalink

My experience is that the juices don't freeze near as hard as ice, I think it's because of the sugar content. Cracking has never been an issue

 
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