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Tikiskip: Guide to tiki bar lights, Identification of styles, ect...
tikiskip
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Posted: 2018-01-08 08:28 am   Permalink

Now on to the table lamp....
Most of the time you find parts for these lights if they are real old ones like this Kahiki table lamp base made by Mrs. Sapp for the Kahiki.
This is the first table lamp style for the Kahiki 1961.

Image from ebay and is Trader Jeff's Photo/collection.


Here is the shade that went to that lamp.
I found this at one of the unknown Kahiki sales after it closed.
The two lamp shades were put together as a hanging lamp.
Thank goodness they did this as these have to be the only two original shades for this light out there and making this hanging lamp saved them. (found two)


Here is the shades together as I found them...
In fact I bought all of these lights.





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Prikli Pear
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Posted: 2018-01-08 08:58 am   Permalink

I am constantly amazed at the "lost" artifacts your persistence keeps turning up, Skip. You, sir, are an inspiration to us all!

 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2018-01-08 3:26 pm   Permalink

Thank you Prikli Pear but really I get lots o info living in Kahiki land USA.
BUT in many cases I found what I found because I asked questions others did not,
And I asked if I could buy things that were not yet for sale.
When they said you can come and look I brought cash and was ready to buy and every time they sold what they told me was not yet for sale on that day.

Got good deals on some things and paid too much for others.

On that Kahiki lamp base up top there Jeff beat me to it by like five minutes, damn! He met me at the center of the show holding that base!
Two thumbs up Jeff, HA!

I would love to be able to put shade and base back together again as I don’t think there is a lamp like this put together and working.

On the people, I talk to lots of people, having parents in the restaurant biz I got to talk to many as they came in every day.

Some of the things I post are not that important but still interesting tidbits I think.

Lastly this thread has had MANY other people add some awesome lights to it and this is what makes TC great together we can map out and find much of what the old tiki joints were all about one post at a time.



 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2018-01-08 3:53 pm   Permalink

This is the second style of table light at the Kahiki.
I got two of them at the public auction at the Kahiki.

On these lights it is the shade that is hard to find, and if you do find one it's kinda beat up, lots O Soy Sauce stains.

I made the first shades pictured here even though I had original shades that were in ok shape, Having the highest bid gives you first choice of what lights you want and how many.
First bid gets you the best lights for sure, I shoulda bought them all.

Kahiki table lamp copies made by me Tikiskip...





This is an original shade.

This is an original lamp base.





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tikicoma
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Posted: 2018-01-08 4:11 pm   Permalink

I always enjoy seeing more about lamps Skip! Question the Kahiki lamps were they always electric or were they oil or candle lit at one time and modernized at some point?


 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2018-01-08 4:14 pm   Permalink

I must have been writing this when you asked tikicoma, as you may know the Trader Vic's table lamps had a candle holder thing in it.
Don't know if they were made electric ever.
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A few more points about the Kahiki table lamps then I will move onto some other lights.
I only made like 8 or so lamp shades and like four of the table lamps.

The second table lamp was painted a color made just for the Kahiki by Majestic paint “Kahiki Brown”
The first one was unfinished clay.
They would have felt on the bottom at least the ones I found.

The first and even second table lamps at the Kahiki were first outfitted with coconut scented oil lamps as told to me by Herman Leitwein.
I think the oldest lamp base was only lit with the oil lamp but this is a guess.

Now don't get confused, they were the same bases they just retrofitted the old base with electric.

Imagine going to the Kahiki with the low lights, soft tropical music playing and the smell of coconut oil in the air, only to get smacked in the face with freezing rain when you leave.

See the old oil can here fitted with electric...




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Prikli Pear
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Posted: 2018-01-09 07:57 am   Permalink

Yes, I'm very impressed by the contributors to this thread. But you're like the Dude's rug--you tie it all together!

Actually, I'm kinda envious that you have a Kahiki to mourn and eulogize. Apart from long-forgotten transient Trader Vic and Don the Beachcomber locations in Houston and Dallas, Texas really is a historical wasteland for tiki. One has to dig pretty deeply to find home-grown examples of the tiki phenomenon--Steak Island in Austin and Lahala House in Corpus--and none of them lasted long enough to leave a legacy. The fact that basements are a rarity here didn't help matters much, either.

Keep posting your Kahiki reclamation projects. I'll live vicariously through them!


 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2018-01-09 08:28 am   Permalink

Well the Lagoon of Mystery will have to do then.
Keep working on your home bar and people will one day collect stuff from it Bill Sapp had no idea that people were so into the Kahiki collecting and history.



 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2018-01-09 08:54 am   Permalink

Here are some other types of table style lights.

Trader Vic's
These had a candle holder in them.
(there are at least two styles of this lamp that are a bit different)


Here are the lamps with the shade I made for the Kahiki lamps.
I don't know if the Trader Vic's lamps ever had their own shades.





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tikiskip
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Posted: 2018-02-09 12:19 pm   Permalink

The coconut shell lamp.
These were the souvenirs you would buy way back when in Hawaii.
Once saw a postcard with many of these on a table on the side of the road in Hawaii for sale, am kinda surprised they are not more popular in the new tiki bars I see.


This one has starfish feet very cool, also has a light in the bottom and on the top but then I added the bottom light.

Now this one is a starfish lamp as it is made of starfish.
These two are mine and I think I have like four of these lights now.
They sell for between $20.00 and up, most in the $80.00 dollar range and always need to be rewired.


Here is s shell lamp.
These could also be called TV lamps as they were said to help your eyes if watching TV in the dark.
These too were sold as souvenirs way back when in Hawaii.


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Posted: 9 days ago; 3:53 pm   Permalink

So I wanted to add this light to this page.
It was first seen here on the thread below about a house that is for sale but I had seen one of these at the Kahiki sale but unfortunately my friend Brad bought it and it is surly dead.

So here it is and they have two of them.
They are made of rattan and WOOD ribbons.
Those points are the fine thin wood ribbon that has been woven and twisted to loop up to that point and then turn back into the light and continue around the light.
This light is a bit bigger than a basket ball, like one and a half times bigger and would weight about 1 or 2 pounds.

Think of the ribbon you use to wrap a Christmas package and that is what this wood ribbon is like.

Don’t know how one would make this light they are so cool.
All I can say is they are a one off style all their own.

Very fragile and there can’t be many left.



Thank you Sweet Daddy Tiki.
Link to thread….
http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=53040&forum=1&25


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tikiskip
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Posted: 9 days ago; 4:04 pm   Permalink

I just looked at the very first photo of this thread that is the Kahiki auction, the first auction that is.

And that light I talked about above is right there in the mid left of the picture.
Damn I should have never let Brad buy that light.


 
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To wrap wood like a ribbon (as in these lamps), you'd most likely have to soak the planed strips in something to break down the material a bit (which is probably why they're so fragile) and then steam the heck out of them to get them that pliable.

You would have to do it with something that has a very uniform grain, but not a lot of variation in the growth rings (so nothing like oak, but a mahogany or poplar might work).

They're amazingly intricate, and it's not a surprise that they don't survive long in the wild. I'd imagine that any place that got too dry (like us up here on the North Coast) would be awful for those lamps, as they'd probably get brittle in a hurry.


 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 7 days ago; 1:13 pm   Permalink

"you'd most likely have to soak the planed strips in something to break down the material a bit (which is probably why they're so fragile) and then steam the heck out of them to get them that pliable"

For sure.
I put rattan in my hot tub and it get real bendy,I have at times added soap to the water ( not in my hot tub) this helps keep the rattan wet and not to dry too fast as you work.

Plus when I say wood it could also be rattan as rattan has a fibrous type of grain and would work well for this.
If you can get fresh rattan it is also WAY more workable heck it's still green, I don't know if you could even find rattan green like that.

But damn it is still hard to bend it without breaking whatever you do.

Bet these people made these right next to the spot where the Rattan was harvested.
Just not that big of a demand for this kind of thing anymore so why make it.

Everything is made of plastic these days, the more we say we are going green the more not green we get.

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My first tikiskip light! The first of many. Thanks skip!!


 
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