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eroc
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Joined: Nov 26, 2015
Posts: 11
Posted: 2015-11-27 06:34 am   Permalink

Hello,

I am going to be building my first Tiki Bar (walls, thatch-roof, door style), and this site has a lot of good ideas to borrow from. I had originally planned to make a 12 foot by 8 foot 'L' shape bar in the corner of my screen enclosure right on the existing deck, but then I thought, why not put it on the outside of the screen enclosure, save deck space, and remove a screen panel for a window into it? So I guess my question is, does anyone have any experience with screen enclosures? I want to know if I could remove the mid span circled in my image, and if it would degrade the structural integrity of the enclosure. I would more than likely build it back with 2x4's, as the mid span is actually 42", which is bar height. I would remove the same mid span at the next opening as well, and build back a framed door. If anyone has experience in this and could chime in, that would be great.

This project is already green-lighted by the wife, so I just need to get past this planning phase and I'll start posting my step by step progression, including design plans. Thank you.










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MadDogMike
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Joined: Mar 30, 2008
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From: The Anvil of the Sun
Posted: 2015-11-27 2:47 pm   Permalink

Welcome to TC eroc and have fun with your build! I would be leery of removing supports in that structure, there isn't much to it. If it's just those 2 crossbars and you replace them with another one higher or lower you might get away with it.

 
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eroc
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Joined: Nov 26, 2015
Posts: 11
Posted: 2015-11-27 3:42 pm   Permalink

Thanks for the reply. I've actually moved the location, again...lol. It will be the same idea, but just another side of the enclosure. I think if I build up the structure braced against the current vertical support beams before dismantling the enclosure in any way, I should be able to then remove the horizontal ones. "Should" being the operative word. Again, I will be replacing one horizontal beam with a bartop that spans the same distance, and the other one will have a framed door which should technically be structurally stronger than the original aluminum beams. I'm working on design plans now. Will post more.

 
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VampiressRN
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Joined: Nov 23, 2006
Posts: 6166
From: Sun City Lincoln Hills (NorCal)
Posted: 2015-11-27 9:36 pm   Permalink

Welcome to TC. There are so many cool lounges in this thread. Very talented builders and decorators. This is a good thread to read as you get started with your project. http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=43018&forum=20&90

Have fun and post pictures along the way.
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eroc
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Joined: Nov 26, 2015
Posts: 11
Posted: 2015-12-17 12:26 pm   Permalink


(Edit: 2018 - Removed all the gobbledygook pictures that have no bearing on the current direction of this project.)

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MadDogMike
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From: The Anvil of the Sun
Posted: 2015-12-18 7:50 pm   Permalink

Looks good, have fun!


 
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W8N2Surf
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Joined: Jul 03, 2015
Posts: 87
From: Virginia
Posted: 2016-01-05 09:28 am   Permalink

This will be a fun one to watch! Post pics of the new site when you can.

 
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Atomic Tiki Punk
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Joined: Jul 19, 2009
Posts: 7048
From: Costa Misery
Posted: 2016-01-05 11:30 am   Permalink

Are we going to stand around talking about which gauge of nails to use now?
get to it, man!


 
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eroc
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Joined: Nov 26, 2015
Posts: 11
Posted: 2018-07-16 05:10 am   Permalink

It's been awhile.....

Should I do this? Should I do that? Eighteen months of inner battles. Lurking. Gathering ideas. Banging my head, and not to metal music, but against vertical objects.

Well, the project is officially underway. And it's got a complete makeover from my first plan.

To make things easy for me (also for the safety of me and those I love), I'm going through a shed company to build an 8' x 16' lean-to style structure. It will be set back 5' from my screen enclosure. I will then be personally building a deck and a 16' x 5' canopy between the shed and my screen enclosure, which I may lose life or limb or both in the process.

With an 8' opening in the lean-to, that will server as my bar space. I will be stealing, borrowing, and hacking several ideas I have seen in this forum for decorations.

Shed is in permitting. Support beams of canopy are being 'designed'. What follows may horrify you.

Prepare for a complete amateur expedition.


 
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tikiskip
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Joined: Nov 26, 2005
Posts: 4940
Posted: 2018-07-16 05:16 am   Permalink

Might be finished by your 80th birthday party.

Good luck.


 
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eroc
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Joined: Nov 26, 2015
Posts: 11
Posted: 2018-07-16 05:20 am   Permalink

Beginning design of the support posts for the canopy



Watching their brother be born....



What did you do during the World Cup? I carved wood.



First two almost complete. Still adding sealant.




To be honest, the design in my head didn't translate to the real world. I suspect I am going to be running into that issue quite often during this project. Still getting used to the router. Never used one before.

Who knows, I may just trash these and start over. Brutally honest comments are welcome. I have no feelings.




 
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nui 'umi 'umi
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Joined: Feb 21, 2011
Posts: 2649
From: La Mirada Atoll
Posted: 2018-07-16 9:11 pm   Permalink

Eroc, Itís your Tiki Space. Do what you like. I like what Iíve seen so far fwiw. Looking forward to your next post.
Cheers


 
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eroc
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Joined: Nov 26, 2015
Posts: 11
Posted: 2018-07-17 06:02 am   Permalink

Thanks. Will start to get more and more pictures once permitting is done with the City. Right now just doing some prep work. It's going to be a mixture of tiki, modern, and maybe some dragons. Who knows. I've seen several things on this forum that I absolutely love, so I've already got a few plans in the works. But I also want my own personal touch on it as well. I just going to organically grow this, and see how it turns out.

 
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HodagHut
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Joined: Sep 25, 2017
Posts: 21
From: Rhinelander, WI
Posted: 2018-07-23 8:56 pm   Permalink

Eroc -

Don't be afraid of the router, and let your hands go where your mind thinks the design should be. I kept telling myself it had to be perfect, and then it dawned on me - Nobody from the Official Tiki Police is going to come and tell me it's wrong.

Literally anything you do will be appreciated by your friends and family. Chances are, you're the only person they've ever seen do anything like this!

Good Luck!


 
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eroc
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Joined: Nov 26, 2015
Posts: 11
Posted: 2018-07-26 6:06 pm   Permalink

Thanks for the tips! The first post I was definitely a little nervous, but it has been getting easier to use the router. Changing bits, getting the depth right, etc.

Unfortunately, the City has come back and denied my permit due to setbacks, after I went to their office, twice, to confirm I could do what I needed to do. Frustrating. But, it looks like I can still do it, but need to push it out 10 feet from the screen enclosure. Doable, but now I have to do a little more redesign, and my deck space just doubled. Glass half full or half empty at this point, lol.


 
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