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The Love Shack, Milwaukee, WI (restaurant)
Kootiki
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Joined: Apr 24, 2012
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From: Wisconsin
Posted: 2017-04-10 1:34 pm   Permalink

Name:The Love Shack
Type:restaurant
Street:106 W Seeboth
City:Milwaukee
State:WI
Zip:53201
country:USA
Phone:
Status:operational

Description:
Looks like downtown Milwaukee is getting another go at a Polynesian establishment.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/entertainment/blogs/mke-diner/2017/04/10/details-food-drink-new-polynesian-spot-love-shack/100281080/



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Tonga Trader
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Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 124
From: Chicago
Posted: 2017-04-11 10:31 am   Permalink

Here's another one with more info:

https://onmilwaukee.com/dining/articles/love-shack-opening-soon.html

Says this:

What The Love Shack won't be, Shaver notes, is a simplistic caricature of Polynesian culture. In fact, its goal is to pay tribute to long-standing traditions in a fun and engaging way.

"We're not exaggerating the culture or the style," he says. "We're honoring it and embracing it. It's not going to be campy or kitschy. Envision that it's 1968 and the Beach Boys are flying to Hawaii to play a show in a small, upscale club. This is that place."

Sounds a lot like what the Lost Lake guy said. My bet is another Tiki bar with no Tiki.

TT


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bigbrotiki
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From: Tiki Island, above the Silverlake
Posted: 2017-04-11 9:46 pm   Permalink

Sounds like what a lot of proprietors are saying that want to re-invent Tiki. Basically, they don't know what they are talking about.

This is not an isolated occurrence: All the lingo here has repeated itself again and again. More and more, especially since the craft cocktail revival, places open whose owners are aware that Tiki is a "thing", but who generally have a very vague idea of what defines the style. They only know it's "fun", but also know it's complicated and daring in taste terms. So they shy away from investing into something they see as risky. What they are NOT aware of is that by using the term Tiki but not fulfilling its promise they misinform the public into believing it to be something that it is not. Eventually, That way, Tiki will become identified as a generic island style the way it was in the 70s, and fade away the same way. They're not aware of that (or care) - but we do!

Their ignorance is based on the one-sided belief that Tiki is kitschy = ironic. Yes, Tiki is all about artifice, but to me artifice is an art form. It can be as great as the original. Yes, what some American artists did in the mid-century might seem funny to us now, but they did it with an amazing amount of skill and creativity. They took something old and made it new, made it their own, creating a genre of its own that deserves recognition. People cannot wrap their head around the fact that something can be in-authentic and authentic at the same time.


 
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Or Got Rum?
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From: Wisconsin
Posted: 2017-04-12 07:01 am   Permalink

Well said Sven...f'in amazing how they are able to take a minute sliver of something and declare..."this is it". I just want to Bitch-Slap them.

 
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Heath
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From: Suburban San Diego (The Drawer)
Posted: 2017-04-12 6:16 pm   Permalink

According to the articles, it's more in the planning stages than having a projected opening date.
So wouldn't it make more sense to try to reach out to them, offer some input and try to help create a place that everyone will want to go.
That seems more beneficial than grabbing torches and pitchforks and prejudging.
Who knows, maybe they have already been told about Tiki-Central and are doing undercover research.

Just my two cents.


 
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Or Got Rum?
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Posted: 2017-04-13 05:00 am   Permalink

Not a bad idea...I hadn't taken my pain pills yet. Although, I do like pitchforks....

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Kootiki
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From: Wisconsin
Posted: 2017-06-20 10:25 am   Permalink

Here's More Info:

Opening next week 6/24

http://www.jsonline.com/story/entertainment/blogs/mke-diner/2017/06/20/tiki-spot-love-shack-opening-walkers-point/411627001/

[ This Message was edited by: Kootiki 2017-06-20 10:27 ]


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tikiskip
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Posted: 2017-06-20 10:50 am   Permalink

“It's not going to be campy or kitschy.”

Said the man with The custom-made handles that say “Bang Bang” and the shark mug from the bar named “Love Shack”

With a name like “Love Shack” you know it’s going to be…
“a classy spot where they can get away from the grind, relax and have fun.”

“its goal is to pay tribute to long-standing traditions in a fun and engaging way.”

That says “this will have very little to do with traditional tiki or Trader Vic’s version of tiki”.

“The idea came to Shaver while he was sweating it out during an intense cardio session sometime last year.”

How douchey, Sounds like he may get lots of people who want water with a lemon in it.




 
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Piddersthecat
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Posted: 2017-06-21 06:51 am   Permalink

Please forgive my ignorance. I'm new here and I'm from Canada (so there's a fair amount of disadvantage going on), but I do like to learn...

Do people consider tiki kitsch because they equate kitsch with anything from the 50s? I don't think MCM is at all kitsch (but I could be wrong there too). Is that kitsch idea so ingrained that people just assume that 50s = tiki = kitsch and they walk away? And should I correct people when they tell me how kitschy tiki is?

I actually did look up the definition of kitsch because I thought maybe my own understanding of it was way off.

Definition of kitsch (Merriam-Webster)
1
: something that appeals to popular or lowbrow taste and is often of poor quality
2
: a tacky or lowbrow quality or condition

There's not a lot on this site that I would consider poor quality (look at the handmade lamps for Pete's sake), it's popular among the few (not the masses), and after looking up the definition of lowbrow, I don't think that most of the art here is that either (that's probably subjective though).

I'm actually a lover of kitsch, always have been. In fact, some kitschy glasses brought me to tiki (believe me pint glasses with 1/2 naked hula girls on them is fairly lowbrow). But it took about 10 minutes on the internet to find Tiki Central and another hour of roaming around in here looking at the pictures (I didn't need to actually read any words) to figure out that tiki does not fit my understanding of kitsch. I actually use the idea of kitsch when I'm shopping. If I decide that something is kitsch, I generally won't buy it to put in my tiki space.

This thread probably isn't the best place to ask this, but they brought up kitschy...so am I in the ballpark of understanding?



 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2017-06-21 08:12 am   Permalink

You would get ten different answers to what is kitsch is if you asked ten different people I would bet.
Would also bet that many people would say that the Maki Kai and even the Kahiki are/were kitschy and have heard people say this about those places.

Now people here don't feel that way about those places for sure.
With that said I have seen a small bit of kitsch in most home tiki bars I have been to.
Homer Simpson in a hula skirt, Barbie and ken dolls and those smoking tiki fountain's
But then that is what I find to be kitsch.

It does not kill the space if in small amounts.

If you look at the Mai Kai or Tiki Ti this is the style that most here would call not kitschy.

The Indonesian tiki that many people put in their bars kinda mess the space up to me, the first thing they say is how inexpensive they were.
They never use the word cheap.

It's kinda the difference between hanging a "hang in there baby" cat poster and a good painting.

For my bar I look at it as a pirate looting around the world picking up cool stuff and bringing it home.

People just have different ideas of what is cool I guess.


 
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Piddersthecat
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Posted: 2017-06-21 08:57 am   Permalink

Hmmmm that's a very good point. I was looking at my understanding of the definition of kitschy, and everyone else's would be different.

So to me, even if they are trying for not kitschy, I might find it kitschy anyway. I never thought about it that way. Thanks for making me think (in a good way)!

Now if I could somehow figure out what to do with the entire set of Star Wars tiki mugs that my brother in law gave me...yup the entire set...because to him it's the bees knees :/


 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2017-06-21 11:03 am   Permalink

I think we all get those not so great tiki gifts.
I say display them and let him think they are ok.



 
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Piddersthecat
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Posted: 2017-06-21 12:48 pm   Permalink

Yup that's for sure what will happen

 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2017-06-23 4:11 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2017-06-21 12:48, Piddersthecat wrote:
Yup that's for sure what will happen



Like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN7NO0vpJ8I

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Piddersthecat
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Posted: 2017-06-24 8:52 pm   Permalink

That's exactly what would happen...although I might like the lighthouse lamp with the light! Lol

 
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