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Mai Tai abomonation
tiki-riviera
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From: Long Beach
Posted: 2017-08-14 9:55 pm   Permalink


I've seen several horrible mai tai recipes in bars/restaurants over the years, but the one I saw on vacation last week takes the cake. Here it is verbatim: Rum, orange juice, sweet and sour, cranberry juice, Grenadine and Meyers rum. Needless to say, I ordered a beer..


 
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Sweet Daddy Tiki
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Posted: 2017-08-15 08:05 am   Permalink

Coincidentally, the worst mai tai I ever had also had cranberry juice. The bartender added it to make it "better". I won't name the establishment as it's under new management.
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HopeChest
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From: East Bay, CA
Posted: 2017-08-15 10:58 am   Permalink

I remember seeing a youtube video on how to make a mai tai where the bartender poured a bunch of cranberry in "for presentation".

 
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arriano
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From: San Diego
Posted: 2017-08-15 2:09 pm   Permalink

A few years ago I was at a so-called "tiki" event, and I asked the bartender if he made any tiki drinks. He said he could make a mai tai. He then dumped in every fruit juice he had (including cranberry) and a couple ounces of dark rum into a pint glass. At first I thought, well fruit juice and rum, how bad could it be? But that cranberry really cut through and made it terrible. I couldn't finish it. Blecch

 
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Prikli Pear
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From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted: 2017-08-15 2:34 pm   Permalink

Here's mine, experienced just last month in Seattle's Very Tacki Tiki Bar. As near as I can figure, it's light rum and pineapple juice, with a dark rum floater. It was actually pretty tasty, as they had the rum and pineapple in good balance. But it was pretty much entirely unlike a Mai Tai. The Wife and I were laughing about it, it was so off the mark.



 
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TikiHardBop
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Posted: 2017-08-15 2:46 pm   Permalink

Sorry, but the "kerosene" Mai Tai from the Bahi Hut in Sarasota has got to be the winner by far. It is easily the worst drink of any kind that I have been served by a commercial establishment.

 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2017-08-16 05:59 am   Permalink

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On 2017-08-15 14:46, TikiHardBop wrote:
Sorry, but the "kerosene" Mai Tai from the Bahi Hut in Sarasota has got to be the winner by far. It is easily the worst drink of any kind that I have been served by a commercial establishment.



"Their schtick has always been strong drinks. What the Bahi Hut calls a mai tai is more akin to the Jet Pilot at the Molokai. But is is a local tradition and rite of passage for over 50 years"

"The problem being is their mai tai is famous to them but is not really a mai tai. If folks can get past that name and think that it is more akin to a Jet Pilot, then you can enjoy it for what it is--almost pure alcohol."

I guess some like? it, the Bahi Hut Mai Tai that is.

I did not find the Jet pilot that strong and it tasted great!
The Tropical bistro boys would make us a Kahiki swizzle late at night and it was all booze, like 151 even, BUT it tasted good!
If the drink tastes good lots o Booze is ok.

Well that is till your customer drives off and mows down a bunch of people and blames you and those strong drinks you gave him or her or X.


 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2017-08-16 07:01 am   Permalink

This may be part of the problem.
It is a glass found at a restaurant supply store with the Mai tai drink printed on it and it has pineapple and grenadine in it.

I told the bartender at Windward that a Mai Tai had no Grenadine in them and he said" the recipe book said they do"
we tell people not to get a Mai Tai at Windward.






 
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mikehooker
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From: Austin
Posted: 2017-08-16 09:38 am   Permalink

Whenever this discussion is brought up I always refer people to this Martin Cate video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZUYP1gn-fY

Sad thing is, when you read through the comments you see "professional" bartenders calling him an idiot and saying HE'S doing it wrong because they were taught otherwise in bartending school. If the industry is presenting the Mai Tai as a fruity Grenadine/Pineapple concoction with a Myers float, the majority of non-tiki people will likely cringe when tasting one done properly, and prefer a stiff, fruity beverage. Sadly, a lot of tiki bars aren't doing the drink justice either. They're either trying to appeal to the general public by making it "Hawaiian" style, or they just don't care to put any effort into their drink program.

My worst Mai Tai ever was at Tiki Tolteca in New Orleans a few years ago. Utterly disgusting.




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AceExplorer
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From: Deep in the Jacksonville Florida jungle.
Posted: 2017-08-16 10:25 am   Permalink

For non-tiki bartenders, the Mai Tai has become a free-form do-as-you-will with whatever-you-have-on-hand and make-your-own-personal-version drink. Not only are wildly varying and incorrect recipes to blame for the loss of the original, but also that a large number of bartenders just don't seem to understand fine tuning and balancing a drink. It's about booze with juices and mixers and flavors, and often without balancing and tuning the blends. The many variations of a "martini" are another example where an original base concept or guideline is being run into the ground with endless variations in today's bars.

Do any bartending schools teach even a little history of drinking? I'm only familiar with one school, and the answer is definitely not. But we also have bartenders from on-the-job training, and those folks also don't get any formal training or understanding in the rich history of cocktails, some standards, and the bigger picture. But the fault isn't entirely theirs - they are not given good materials to work with either because their customers aren't very knowledgeable or demanding. A large segment of our drinking culture today is quite uninformed.

Now back to the Mai Tai... We tiki folks have a great little secret, and once in a while we get to open others eyes wide to the glory that is a good Mai Tai. I relish those moments.


 
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kkocka
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Posted: 2017-08-16 10:49 am   Permalink

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On 2017-08-16 09:38, mikehooker wrote:
Whenever this discussion is brought up I always refer people to this Martin Cate video



Same here! Good video too.
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Tiki-boss
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From: Peoria AZ
Posted: 2017-08-17 7:06 pm   Permalink

Sad thing is that outside of a tiki bar many people may actually send back a properly made Mai Tai simply because it's not what they were expecting. The whole topic burns my gut so I've simply decided to live with the fact that there will likely always be a proper Mai Tai and a "island " Mai Tai and the casual drinker will almost always prefer the later if not from their expectations it will be from the more "tropical" presentation.



Ordered out of boredom at a chain restaurant. Why? I have no idea.

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Tiki-boss
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Posted: 2017-08-18 09:36 am   Permalink

Here is the actual ingredients from their menu. I must have had a good buzz going already to order this knowing it advance what was in it. Was it curiosity?






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Prikli Pear
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From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted: 2017-08-18 10:42 am   Permalink

Egads! The only thing that has in common with a Mai Tai is both contain a type of rum. The mind boggles.

 
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AceExplorer
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Posted: 2017-08-18 10:53 am   Permalink

Imagine how much more they could sell if they made a REAL Mai Tai. Who cares if Vic's is not their own recipe - it's all about the taste and balance and that they'd be the only ones around making it.



 
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