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Rescued Mai Tiki from NJ needs brain surgery.
Billymons
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Posted: 2018-08-31 3:10 pm   Permalink

So Im new to this forum and Id like to say hello. Im here to ask for any opinions on my mission to revive this Beautiful tiki. Unfortunately its been outside for a long time in New Jersey and the top is starting to rot. I pressure washed it and took all the rot I could out so far. It is now in the garage laying down for a long winter of drying out and debugging. After it has dried out I will take any loose rot out then treat it, then fill it in with something?? I thought about filling it in with a bunch of wood pieces real tight and then pouring a gallon or two of wood glue in to fill in all the gaps. Yes that rot goes about a foot deep. Or making a giant wood plug with a doner log. After that Id like to put a copper or led cap on it to keep and future weather out. This will eventually sit out by my pool for the summer and then be taking inside the rest of the year. If you have any suggestions Id greatly appreciate it.









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Billymons
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Posted: 2018-08-31 3:19 pm   Permalink

Dang the pics are sideways! Guess I cant post them from a iPhone? Sorry. If I figure it out Ill straighten them out.

 
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Posted: 2018-08-31 3:59 pm   Permalink

Read this post of mine. It may help you a little. Good Luck!

http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=6515&forum=1&hilite=Discovery%20&%20Restoration%20of%20vintage%20Oceanic%20Arts%20tiki%20in%20Kansas%20City,%20MO%20and%20now,%20AMAZING%20chapter%202%20!
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swizzle
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Posted: 2018-08-31 7:44 pm   Permalink

If you are going to put some sort of 'cap' on it then why bother filling it at all?

 
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Posted: 2018-08-31 8:12 pm   Permalink

I'd use some minwax wood hardener. Let it trickle down the sides all around, probably use the whole bottle.
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tikitube
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Posted: 2018-08-31 9:59 pm   Permalink

You could also try an epoxy filler. I've had success filling wood with Apoxy Sculpt. Whatever you use, be sure it won't absorb moisture later.

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MadDogMike
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Posted: 2018-09-01 11:28 am   Permalink

Welcome Billymons. Nice looking Tiki, at least it's lighter now that it's hollow

I don't know about loading from iPhone to TC but if edit your post and put the tag [img] before the file name and [/img] after it, the picture will show on the post. Like this

[img]http://tikiroom.com/img/83716x5b89bb40.jpg[/img]



 
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Posted: 2018-09-01 2:02 pm   Permalink












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tikiskip
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Posted: 2018-09-01 4:07 pm   Permalink

Do you know the guy who carved that tiki?

And I say go with it, the hole that is.
At the Kahiki they had tiki about that size and they put a light in it then caped the hole with a glass globe, or fishing float.
So then you would have a tiki and a cool light feature.

Coat the insides with a protective coating that you will have to replace every now and then.
The globe will keep some rain out.

Heck the hard part is done, putting the hole in the top that is.

Good luck.


 
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tikitube
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Posted: 2018-09-01 4:49 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2018-09-01 16:07, tikiskip wrote:
Do you know the guy who carved that tiki?




Isn't Mai Tiki the name that Wayne Coombs used?

https://www.critiki.com/location/mai-tiki-gallery-cocoa-beach-478/

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tikiskip
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Posted: 2018-09-01 8:37 pm   Permalink

Yes it was.

Just wanted to post this picture so I baited someone into asking.

Here is Wayne, Think Wayne would love the idea of flipping people off from the beyond.

know I would.



 
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2018-09-01 8:42 pm   Permalink

Heck that tiki looks to be the second tiki from the right on Wayne's shirt he is wearing in photo.

One more idea would be to find a bowl the right size to go in the hole and use it as a bird bath too.
But the birds would poop on it as well.
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AceExplorer
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Posted: 2018-09-02 05:42 am   Permalink

You really do need to save that Mai Tiki carving. I have experience with serious, hard-core, and permanent repair and restoration of rotted and otherwise damaged wood.

My suggestion is to look up, online, a product called Abatron. It is an epoxy which soaks into the wood very effectively, and it does not care if it finds rotten wood or other organic matter. It incorporates any existing debris within the hole and completely penetrates whatever porous material it encounters to re-solidify and preserve soft and rotten wood. It mixes perfectly with sawdust, newspaper, other bits of wood, etc. to fill large voids. It's not cheap - I recall paying about $30 a pint - but it works incredibly well and comes in larger less expensive sizes depending on what you need to do. Their web site will show you who sells it in your area. I live in a big city and only two paint shops sell it.

Abatron is a clear material with a light amber color. It is sandable, drillable, paintable, weather resistant, and just plain hardy. It is used by a number of historical restoration specialists to repair and preserve damaged wood. Homeowners use it to repair and fill in termite damage along with many other types of wood-destroying organism damage.

For your tiki, which you have already cleaned out, you would mix Part A and Part B of the Abatron, then generously brush the interior of the hole with pure Abatron to preserve the initial exposed layer of natural wood. Be generous, and let the first layer really soak in and harden - about a full day. Then mix more Abatron, add your filler material (wood chips, sawdust, newspaper, etc.) and start filling the hole and packing your mixture in tightly. Abatron sticks to Abatron, so you can build up layers of the material over a number of days at whatever pace you choose. Call their support number if you have questions, especially if it's your first time using their product. You could ask, for example, if its best to use 1" layers of the preparation, or 3" at a time, or 6" at a time. I'm never shy with it - I fill 100% of whatever I'm repairing and then let it cure. It's always good to gain some knowledge (and with it also confidence) before starting to repair any one-of-a-kind item with an unfamiliar product. Before you touch your tiki, you could make a practice test by taking an old 2 x 4 and creating a deep divot by drilling a bunch of holes in the center. Then dig out a bunch of wood and use Abatron to fill and patch the hole. This allows you to practice, see how it works, and even test it's ability to be sanded and drilled once it's fully cured.

Good luck, and please post photos before, during, and after the repair.

(Edited to improve wording and clarify the 2 x 4 test suggestion.)
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tikiskip
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Posted: 2018-09-02 06:15 am   Permalink

Abatron stuff sounds good.
Remember if you use something that delaminates the space where the caulk is kinda on and off of the tiki will hold water to the wood in the cracks and not let the wood dry out.

That is a bad thing and will make it rot more.

If you don't need your backyard dcor to be on all the time you could cover the tiki with a trash bag and remove when you are out or have a party, the copper top is a good idea as well and you could take the top off and the the wood dry every now and then.

Make sure you have a drain hole so water will not collect in the hole as well.

So I found a picture of that tiki with the float on top, this tiki was from the Kahiki as well.
This will give you an idea of how that looks.




Here is a photo of Wayne's shop in FLA.




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Billymons
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Posted: 2018-09-04 04:55 am   Permalink

Thanks all! Great advise. Once Im done Im gonna hate to see it outside in the summer. Maybe I can find a spot under my deck, near the pooI. I just want it to be a focal point. Yes I found out it was Waynes work after some research. I lived in Florida for 6 years and was at his shop once, after a couple cocktails of course.

 
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