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Fassionola?
the drunken hat
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Posted: 2006-04-03 06:17 am   Permalink

i wonder if either of these are the same as fassionola?

http://www.webejava.com/site/1254423/product/232-5412253

http://www.westindianstore.com/anchorfruitps.html

i would order them and find out if i had a bottle of the real stuff to compare it to.


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GatorRob
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Posted: 2006-12-17 4:14 pm   Permalink

bumpola.

So many Donn recipes that call for Fassionola. So many empty glasses. Such a shame. Anyone care to be a hero and solve this?


 
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GatorRob
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Posted: 2006-12-20 3:53 pm   Permalink

Okay, thanks to the wonderful Jeff "Beachbum" Berry, the mystery of Fassionola is solved! Well, mostly. I have a message here from the Bum:

Quote:
I found a dusty old bottle of Fassionola in a San Marino liquor store back in the mid-1990s. It was a thicker, more orange-y version of Trader Vic's passion fruit syrup (which is MUCH better, by the way). I wrote to the address on the bottle and the company (long since out of business) sent me the attached. Feel free to post it on TC for the curious!

Kern told me that the Mai-Kai used a lot of the stuff back in the day. They now use Trader Vic's...





So, it appears that we should be substituting TV Passion Fruit Syrup for Fassionola. It's intersting to me though that there were 3 flavors: passion fruit, cherry and lime.


 
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Kono
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Posted: 2006-12-20 5:46 pm   Permalink

I also contacted da Bum a while back and obviously got the same answer (I didn't ask him if he minded me posting the info here, so I didn't. But I thought about it...Sorry!) Anyhoo...he did say that it had an orangey tone so I got some of the Stirrings Blood Orange bitters (which is not very bitter by the company's own admission on the label) and mix a little bit of it with the TV Passionfruit syrup for what I hope to be close to the old fassionola taste. Just an idea.

 
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Tiki Mortis
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Posted: 2006-12-21 06:16 am   Permalink

Based on the info GatorRob posted, it seems that Fee Brothers makes three types of Passion Fruit Syrup. Except that the green color has a mint flavor.
I've tried their golden passion fruit syrup and found it to be too sweet and artificial tasting.


 
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pappythesailor
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Posted: 2006-12-21 7:26 pm   Permalink

Nice post, Gator! Thank you

 
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sirginn
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Posted: 2009-07-14 11:20 am   Permalink

Not sure if I stumbled on something or not, when searching for some other items, I stumbled across a "Fee brothers red passsion fruit cordial syrup" described as a passion fruit syrup with hint of cherry, it is made by Fees and states is what is utilized in the hurricane and tonga punch. (see full description below link)

based on the research by others in the thread, fassionola was predominately passion fruit based, but with red/punch character, and one of the posts showed an add with a cherry flavor.

I ordered one and will see I will post the results when it arrives, previously I have been using fruit puch concentrate or passion fruit syrup when fassionola was called for.

Here is the link:

http://www.kegworks.com/product.php?productid=21382&cat=546&page=1

Fee Brothers Red Passion Fruit Cordial Syrup
This deep red, non-alcoholic cocktail syrup has a basic passion fruit flavor with a hint of cherry. Itís a necessary ingredient in popular cocktail recipes like a Hurricane or a Tonga Punch. Itís also good for flavoring coffee and topping desserts.

Opened in 1863, Fee Brothers of Rochester, New York, is in its fourth generation of manufacturing top quality cocktail mixes, bitters, flavoring syrups and other beverage ingredients.

In stock and ready to ship.
Features
Passion fruit flavor with a hint of cherry
Used in popular cocktails like a Hurricane or a Tonga Punch
Also good for flavoring coffee and topping desserts


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Mai Tai
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Posted: 2009-07-14 2:32 pm   Permalink

Anyone ever use the "search" feature?

From page 1 of this thread that we're currently reading (and corrected for spelling):

Quote:

On 2004-11-17 11:12, kick_the_reverb wrote:
Ok, yesterday I looked at my bottle and it's:
Jonathan English's Brand Red Tropical Gold Fruit Mix.
Distributed by Jonathan English Company, San Diego CA 92120.
So, I looked in the yellow pages and found that the company still exists. I called the number - (619) 281-1133, and told them I was interested in knowing where could I get the syrup, because I was told it's no longer in production. The receptionist took my name and number and said someone will call me back.
So - let's wait a few days and see if someone does call me back.

I also looked online for the syrup name and the company, but no luck (just phone book entries for the company).

BTW: if you're interested in the contents here's what the bottle says:
Corn Sweetener, Water, Orange Juice Con., Citric Acid, Xanthan Gum, Nat. & Art. Flavor, Sodium Benzoate as a preservative, Art. Color, Yellow #6.

Ran



On how Fassionola tastes compared directly to passion fruit syrup
Found on page three of the
Cocktails With Al thread, where he shows us how to properly make a Planter's Punch:
http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=23792&forum=10&start=30

Quote:

On 2007-05-17 13:17, Al-ii wrote:
Mr Gnoman,
Thank you for the comments. I have read that thread and I appreciate those who contributed to it. I respectfully disagree with the statement that Fassionola is similar to passion fruit syrup, or is an acceptable substitute. If you reconstitute Jon English's Fassionola you with water or pineapple juice you get a drink that taste "like" Hawaiian Punch. Add water to Passion Fruit Syrup and it taste markedly different. The difference is similar to Hershey's Chocolate Syrup and Torani chocolate syrup, one being made with a base of Chocolate, the other being made with a base of clear sugar syrup flavored with a little chocolate essence. Fassionola is fruit punch concentrate. Smart and final, I'm told, has a fruit punch concentrate. I'll get some this weekend and see how it works. I've been looking for Hawaiian Punch Concentrate, so far, no luck. Mind you I still get Fassionola from

Americas Finest Bar Supply Specialists
John Malloch
858.695.1655
John likes you to call ahead with order so he can pull it and have it ready at Will Call. open Mon-Fri, 9 to 5.



I've tried my Planters punch with TVs passion fruit syrup instead of Fassionola, It's not as good.
Mahalo,
Al


How Fassionola compares to passion fruit syrup in a cocktail (particularly using the old Trader Vic's passion fruit syrup that had real passion fruit, which was the passion fruit syrup that most of us here preferred).
Found in the last line of the quote above:
Quote:

On 2007-05-17 13:17, Al-ii wrote:
I've tried my Planters punch with TVs passion fruit syrup instead of Fassionola, It's not as good.
Mahalo,
Al



How Fassionola tastes in old tiki cocktail recipes that call for it
Found on page two of the thread that we're currently reading:
Quote:

On 2004-11-17 11:51, Alnshely wrote:
I have not tried the green yet. the red is "fruity", punch like. It makes some real tasty drinks out of the DTB book.
Mahalo,
Al



Where to buy Fassionola
Also taken from the quote above:
Quote:

On 2007-05-17 13:17, Al-ii wrote:
Mind you I still get Fassionola from

Americas Finest Bar Supply Specialists
John Malloch
858.695.1655
John likes you to call ahead with order so he can pull it and have it ready at Will Call. open Mon-Fri, 9 to 5.




So, to recap, Fassionola is basically a fruit punch concentrate that doesn't have any passion fruit juice in it. But it is the preferred ingredient in old tiki drink recipes that call for it, especially Don The Beachcomber recipes. And passion fruit syrup, even the old Trader Vic's passion fruit syrup that had real passion fruit juice in it, is not an acceptable substitute in recipes that call for Fassionola. And Fassionola is still available, and you can order it here:

Jonathan English's Brand
Red Tropical Gold Fruit Mix - net 32 Fl. Oz. (1 Quart)
Green Old Fashion Tropical Mix - net 32 Fl. Oz. (1 Quart)
Distributed by Jonathan English Company
Available for purchase from
Americas Finest Bar Supply Specialists
John Malloch
858.695.1655

Mystery solved!
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pappythesailor
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Posted: 2009-07-15 11:55 am   Permalink

Hey, speaking of Fassionola, I heard that it's just Rose's Grenadine with yellow food coloring added. Where do you get that stuff, anyway?

 
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CincyTikiCraig
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Posted: 2009-07-15 8:09 pm   Permalink

I ran across this Tropical Blend Syrup from Monin, and I've been using it as my Fassionola, with one modification:




Monin describes this syrup as: "Like a tropical escape with varied colors, aromas and sights, Monin Tropical Blend is a wonderful medley of colors and flavors. Rich mango, aromatic passion fruit, lush pineapple, intense banana and citrusy tangerine are combined in one, easy to pour, tropical sensation"

The ingredients are: Pure Cane Sugar, Water, Mango Flavour, Passion Fruit Flavour, Pineapple Flavour, Concentrated Lemon Juice, Natural Banana Flavour, Natural Mandarin Flavour.

I combined about 75% of the Monin syrup and about 25% of the Hawaiian Punch syrup that I made ( 1 packet of HP mix, the amount of sugar called for on the packet and about 10 ounces of water). This blend really works in the DTB Pi-Yi and Rum Barrel.....Think I'll have one right now in fact!

Cheers,

Craig

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captnkirk
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Posted: 2009-07-21 04:06 am   Permalink

I have been using Pat O'Brians Hurricane mix as a replacement for the red Fassionola for years. I think it is the closest substitute out there.

I would love to know for sure. We should get a few master tiki bartenders and experts from this forum and taste a sealed bottle of the original stuff. Maybe we could all spark up demand and someone would begin producing it again.

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Mai Tai
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Posted: 2009-07-21 4:59 pm   Permalink

Quote:
On 2009-07-21 04:06, captnkirk wrote:
I have been using Pat O'Brians Hurricane mix as a replacement for the red Fassionola for years. I think it is the closest substitute out there.



Tell us exactly how you prepare the Pat O'Brien's Hurricane mix into your syrup. How much of the powdered mix, how much water, how long you boil it down, etc.

Quote:
I would love to know for sure. We should get a few master tiki bartenders and experts from this forum and taste a sealed bottle of the original stuff.



Ran and I are going to do something like this with various passion fruit syrups during Tiki Oasis. We could do a direct comparison with your home made syrup from the Pat O'Brien's powdered mix vs. fassionola in a planters punch or something similar at Tiki Oasis as well. And we can easily obtain the fassionola for comparison in the San Diego area, since it is still being produced there.

Quote:
Maybe we could all spark up demand and someone would begin producing it again.


Uh, did you read the post above? Fassionola is still being produced, and you can purchase it here:
Jonathan English's Brand
Red Tropical Gold Fruit Mix - net 32 Fl. Oz. (1 Quart)
Green Old Fashion Tropical Mix - net 32 Fl. Oz. (1 Quart)
Distributed by Jonathan English Company
Available for purchase from
Americas Finest Bar Supply Specialists
John Malloch
858.695.1655


I called them last week, and they have all three colors, the red, the green, and the gold.
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JamalSpelling
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Posted: 2009-07-28 5:11 pm   Permalink

Yes it's true, JE tropical drink mix is available to anyone. It is in no way anything like
Passion Fruit other than being a 'tropical' type drink mixer.
Seems like old drink recipes are coming back big, and so is the demand for
oddball mixers that you just don't see on the shelf at the local grocery.
Having a bottle of the JE tropical green in my cabinet for a few years, I've been
dying to try it. So I searched 'Fassionola Recipes' and came across this post.
If you have a sweet tooth and like sticky sweet drinks, then the Fassionola type
JE tropical mix is made to order.
I've been running America's Finest Bar Supply for so long that I remember selling
a lot of the real Falernum, Fassionola and Trader Vics products. My favorite was the
Trader Vic's bottle with the 'topless' Island Girl on the label. I still have a glass
bottle of TV's rock candy syrup, (though now clothed)on my desk and she's a real beauty!
With all the recent interest, and a hot day, a nice tropical drink sounded great.
I used the recipe posted earlier for the Fassionola Cocktail, just to keep it simple,
but substitued Green for Gold as that's what I had on hand and used Rum. Of course I think
most tropical drinks should have some sort of rum as the booze ingredient.
I have to admit, it's a scary looking mix if you're a stranger to it.
Shake the bottle well. One shaker can full of ice, jigger of Rum, jigger of Tropical Drink Mix.
Pour over cracked ice.
Once you crack the bottle open, it smells very sweet. Thick, very thick and well, just thick and sticky.
Just like I remember. (I used to deliver it local, and when you broke a bottle in the delivery truck,
it was a bad day and a major clean up operation!) Reminds me of green candy. The green's kinda limey, citrusy.
I'll be investigating the gold and red later.
On my 2nd cocktail now, very sweet and tasty. Looks like I've found my new summer drink!
Just have to get over the fact that the cocktail looks like slimey green swamp water, but great tasting!
Probably should have tried a different color first.
One mean sweet sugary limey tropical cocktail. Can't wait to try more recipes!
I am restocking current inventory soon, the calls for this have been few and far between,
but we try to accomodate. By mid August we will have a new run of all 3 colors in house.
We do mostly local business, so please be patient. I'll try to get your merchandise
out within 48 hours when requesting this product for shipment.
John
America's Finest


 
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CincyTikiCraig
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Posted: 2009-07-28 8:06 pm   Permalink

John,

Thank you for posting this. I can'twait to get my paws on all of the flavours. Can you tell us the price for the Fassionola? I don't see ot on your website.

Cheers,

Craig


 
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CincyTikiCraig
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Posted: 2009-07-28 8:07 pm   Permalink

HOLY COW!!!!

Jonathan English has a brand new website:

http://jonathanenglishcompany.com/jonathanenglish/flash.swf

I haven't even looked around much yet, I found it and wanted to post it ASAP!

PS-They have their own Orgeat as well!! It's under the Barcelona Mixers.



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