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International Market Place Will be horribly razed
christiki295
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Posted: 2013-03-14 10:27 pm   Permalink

Why cannot the IMP do subterranean parking, or off site parking.
That way the commercial development can have more open space - and space for the historic shopping stalls, just like the Royal Hawaiian Center.



 
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msteeln
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Posted: 2013-03-16 12:27 pm   Permalink

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Why cannot the IMP do subterranean parking, or off site parking.

Partly because once you cut deep enuf you run into the marshlands that were there for ages making for various instability issues, etc., and there's aquifers that would be disrupted. Probably some zoning and other restrictions as well, plus Hawaiians usually have their issues with futher diggings.


 
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tikilongbeach
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Posted: 2013-03-20 1:54 pm   Permalink

Another postcard. It's almost the same picture that Zeta posted, but a few years later.









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Mongoloid
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Posted: 2013-03-20 2:00 pm   Permalink

If you look in front of that white T-bird on the bottom left you can see the sign(cutoff)and A frame entrance for the old Don the Beachcomber.

 
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Luckydesigns
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Posted: 2013-03-20 2:21 pm   Permalink

Good eye, Mongoloid!

 
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Phillip Roberts
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Posted: 2013-03-20 5:02 pm   Permalink

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On 2013-03-20 14:00, Mongoloid wrote:
If you look in front of that white T-bird on the bottom left you can see the sign(cutoff)and A frame entrance for the old Don the Beachcomber.


As well as both of the Edward M. Brownlee gables (now gone)...On the top of the buildings...


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Phillip Roberts
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Posted: 2013-03-25 2:18 pm   Permalink

Thank You OUTRIGGER!

http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/blog/morning_call/2013/03/outrigger-asks-city-to-withdraw-permit.html
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Hale Tiki
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Posted: 2013-03-26 03:42 am   Permalink

Niiiiiccccceeeee!

 
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hang10tiki
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Posted: 2013-03-27 08:43 am   Permalink

Way cool

 
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Luckydesigns
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Posted: 2013-03-27 09:06 am   Permalink

Is that the developing company who is withdrawing their permit request?? So the project is off?
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Hale Tiki
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Posted: 2013-03-27 10:12 am   Permalink

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On 2013-03-27 09:06, Luckydesigns wrote:
Is that the developing company who is withdrawing their permit request?? So the project is off?




No. Queen Emma Land Co is the company that wants to redevelop the area. Outrigger and Beachcomber are the ones that asked for the permit to be withdrawn.


 
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Luckydesigns
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Posted: 2013-03-27 3:43 pm   Permalink

Oh... that's not AS exciting.
A step in the right direction though.


 
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christiki295
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Posted: 2013-03-30 3:45 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2013-03-16 12:27, msteeln wrote:
Quote:
Why cannot the IMP do subterranean parking, or off site parking.

Partly because once you cut deep enuf you run into the marshlands that were there for ages making for various instability issues, etc., and there's aquifers that would be disrupted. Probably some zoning and other restrictions as well, plus Hawaiians usually have their issues with futher diggings.


All good points. Nevertheless, seemingly there is more than enough space to allow for a low scale outdoor mall on Kalakau, include dedicated space for IMP kiosks, possibly around the Banyan tree. The carport can be placed on the Kuhio side.
Realistically, the photo below suggests my thought, with the Banyan tree & IMP kioks in the middle, with the Pink Palace being the carpark.



 
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christiki295
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Posted: 2013-03-30 3:48 pm   Permalink

What I am hoping never to see is an 'indoor" mall like Ala Moana:



 
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Pittsburgh pauly
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Posted: 2013-04-17 2:46 pm   Permalink

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On 2013-03-30 15:48, christiki295 wrote:
What I am hoping never to see is an 'indoor" mall like Ala Moana:





The reports talk about 3 floors of retail and the rendering is:


So, maybe slightly better than what you posted, but very similar and indoors (and not what we all love).

It looks like the group that asked the city to withdraw the permit owns the only properties on that block that wouldn't be demo'd:
The Holiday Inn Waikiki Beachcomber (to the left of International Market Place) and the Ohana East hotel (other end of the block).
As well as the Outrigger Waikiki On the Beach directly across the street from the entrance to the market place.
I'd say they might think that all that construction might be bad for their business.

There was supposed to be a hearing on April 15th, anybody know what happened?

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