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What's Changed On Tiki Central?
ookoo lady
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Posted: 2006-01-22 06:44 am   Permalink

The last posting from Iuka Grogg was last October, before Hanford announced the new policy on multiple i.d.'s.

 
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Hakalugi
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Posted: 2006-01-22 07:40 am   Permalink

I think Iuka is just waiting for an opportunity to post and I don't think Hanford's policy should really even apply in this case. Let's wait and see.

 
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Humuhumu
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Posted: 2006-01-22 12:11 pm   Permalink

If you'll allow me a moment of geekery, I'm reminded of a scene from the first episode of Red Dwarf:

Quote:
Holly: Good morning, Dave. It is now safe for you to emerge from stasis.
Lister: Haven't I just gone in?
Holly: Please proceed to the Drive Room for debriefing.
Lister: Where is everybody, Hol?
Holly: They're dead, Dave.
Lister: Who is?
Holly: Everybody, Dave.
Lister: What, Captain Hollister?
Holly: Everybody's dead, Dave.
Lister: What, Todhunter?
Holly: Everybody's dead, Dave.
Lister: What, Selby?
Holly: They're all dead. Everybody's dead, Dave.
Lister: Petersen isn't, is he?
Holly: Everybody is dead, Dave.
Lister: Not Chen?
Holly: Gordon Bennett! Yes! Chen, everybody. Everybody's dead, Dave.
Lister: Rimmer?
Holly: He's dead, Dave. Everybody's dead. Everybody is dead, Dave!
Lister: Wait. Are you trying to tell me everybody's dead?
Holly: I wish I'd never let him out in the first place.

Lister: Oh, this is terrible. And why is it so dirty around here, Hol? What is this stuff?
Holly: That is Catering Officer Olaf Petersen.
Lister: Aaaah! I've been eating half the crew!



Yep, weirduncletiki will not be posting as Iuka Grogg anymore. One person, one profile, Dave.

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Riptide
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From: Garden Grove, CA
Posted: 2006-01-22 12:14 pm   Permalink

In honor or the "What's Changed On Tiki Central" thread, I've been trying to plan a cool event that can showcase the changes. Here is what I've been thinking:

The 1st Annual Tiki Central "It's All About The Tiki" Tiki Event & Gala. It will cost $24 to attend and you will be provided with an "Official Tiki Central Electro-Shock Dog Collar". The event will allow you, the TCIAATTTE&G attendee to talk tiki and nothing but tiki to all your favorite totally tiki people attending the event as well. Be warned, however, if at anytime conversation switches from anything other than tiki, Hanford will press a button that will shock the crap out of you as a warning that such non-tiki topics are strictly prohibited. All humor, fun, creativity, and personality MUST be of a tiki nature. After you have been shocked for showing your "other than tiki" side, you must consider yourself warned, any further indiscretions or showing of creativity or a diverse personality will cause you to be banned from the event.

The only problem I can't seem to resolve is the entertainment for the event. I would love to have The Maikai Gents play, but unfortunately Iuka Grogg will not be allowed to attend, because we will only allow Weird Uncle Tiki. Of course, I don't think I need to even explain why The Smokin' Menehunes are out of the question as well.

Anyway, let me know what you guys think. Doesn't this event sound like so much fun? When responding to this event, I would appreciate it though if you refrain from using "Emoticons". Must I remind you all that little smiley faces ARE NOT tiki!!!


 
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Tiki-bot
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Posted: 2006-01-22 12:33 pm   Permalink

Riptide: Why don't you find some other web forum where you can discuss all things not tiki if you are dissatisfied with the guidelines regarding subject matter here? Or start your own? Or is it just easier to biatch about it here?

 
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Riptide
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Posted: 2006-01-22 1:26 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-01-22 12:33, Tiki-bot wrote:
Riptide: Why don't you find some other web forum where you can discuss all things not tiki if you are dissatisfied with the guidelines regarding subject matter here? Or start your own? Or is it just easier to biatch about it here?



I want it all!

In all honesty, I agree, that it is wrong to dis-rail threads and that the "tiki" related topics, should remain on the topic of tiki. However, when placing restrictions on "what people can post", whether or not they can use "alter-egos" (I'm sorry Mr. Twain, but all your books must say Samuel Clemens), and then banning them if they do, I think a line has been crossed. I really think that banning this behavior from even an area like "Bilge" is ridiculous. This was the types of craziness and "non-tiki" stuff that Bilge was created for, but now even that is restricted. It is like telling students that they can't goof around in class, because that is what recess is for, but then telling them to quit having fun and being silly and that they should take recess seriously.

A while back I had a conversation with Hanford at the Tiki Ti. We were talking about different ways that Hanford could actually make money from TC. There already was the "Grand Membership", but not that many people had actually become one. One of the things Hanford said was "Charging for TC is a tough thing, because all TC is, is the people that post." I agreed and I became a "Grand Member" because I enjoyed ALL the posts and fun with the TC Ohana. By stifling the creativity and restricting the allowed content, I feel I am not getting the same product that I paid for. As a paying customer of this service, I feel I have the right to express my opinions. Maybe I am way of base and am the only one who feels this way, but I am still entitled to my beliefs.

I can make the same statement to you, Tiki-Bot. You don't have to read this topic, read my post, or anything else that might upset your beliefs about how you want TC to be, but I would be the last person to say that you don't have the right to respond or criticize what you feel is wrong with my or anyone else's posts.


 
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hanford_lemoore
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Posted: 2006-01-22 2:04 pm   Permalink

Quote:
I've been trying to plan a cool event that can showcase the changes. Here is what I've been thinking: The 1st Annual Tiki Central "It's All About The Tiki" Tiki Event & Gala.


Oooooooh that's a stinger Riptide! Good one! um. Yeah.

Seriously, it would have been good if it weren't for the fact that Beyond Tiki exists. Or Bilge. Or the 'Ohana forum. Or the Grand Membership forum. Or, hey, you can chat about virtually anything under the sun in real time, 24 hours a day, using TikiShout (if anyone wants to chat back with you). Oh, and for almost five years I happily allowed multiple profiles and only shut them down after abuse of them got way out of control in a variety of different ways.

Riptide, I know you're of the opinion that multiple profiles equals pure comedy gold, but the cons outweighed the pros. There are topics that have discussed it at length, and the vast majority of TCers who I've discussed it with agreed. Clicking of the "abuse" button in Shout has dropped to absolute zero since I implemented the no-multiple-names there.

There's still a zillion ways to have off-topic fun on Tiki Central. The reality of the situation just doesn't seem to justify the noise you're making.



Riptide (and everyone else), I do appreciate your comments and want your feedback. Of course, the way you frame your commentary will influence the framing of my reply.

[ This Message was edited by: hanford_lemoore 2006-01-22 14:05 ]


 
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tikivixen
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Posted: 2006-01-22 2:58 pm   Permalink


Oh for heaven's sake.

The whole multiple ID thing is just another case of a few jerks spoiling it for everyone else. Because of them, no one else can do it now. And as Midnite and many others ably demonstrate every day, genuine humor, aka wit, is not dead around here.

Hanford's being fair and implementing the policy across the board, which seems perfectly civilized to me. At first glance, it doesn't seem like a bad idea to allow performers like Iuka or advice columnists/commercial enterprises like WWJD alternate profiles, but the problem is, sooner or later SOME turnip would find a way to abuse the policy, and we'd be right back to the full ban.

Why don't y'all go smack up (just verbally, of course...) the real problem folks who ruined the fun? I bet lots of people know exactly who they are.


tikivixen

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finkdaddy
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Posted: 2006-01-22 3:15 pm   Permalink

Isn't this Hanford's website? If he wants to charge $50 a month to talk about rubber chickens it's ok because we can choose not to be a part of it. If I'm not mistaken, isn't there a huge thing called the internet where people can do and say all sorts of things? This is just one address. If you don't like it, get your own.
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Tiki-bot
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Posted: 2006-01-22 3:31 pm   Permalink

Quote:


I can make the same statement to you, Tiki-Bot. You don't have to read this topic, read my post, or anything else that might upset your beliefs about how you want TC to be, but I would be the last person to say that you don't have the right to respond or criticize what you feel is wrong with my or anyone else's posts.



What I may or may not want TC to be is completely irrelevant, and I never made any statement about what I wanted it to be. It's Hanford's gig. If you feel you didn't get what you paid for, take it up with him directly.

My opinion is that no matter what anyone says to you regarding this, you will find an angle to argue that you hadn't before, all for no apparent reason. This sort of behavior gets you the coveted "Attention Whore" award:


[ Edited by: hanford_lemoore - removed broken image link - 2006-12-01 16:43 ]


 
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The Granite Tiki
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Posted: 2006-01-22 3:32 pm   Permalink

For what it's worth, my opinion is, this is the best site on the Internet.

I come here to get away from the stupidity everywhere else.

Hanford walks that fine line between boss/co-worker with all of us as masterfully as it gets.

Keep up the great work!

What's changed about Tiki Central? Every day gets better than the last.

Thank you hanford lemoore.


 
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finkdaddy
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Posted: 2006-01-22 4:30 pm   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-01-22 15:32, The Granite Tiki wrote:
For what it's worth, my opinion is, this is the best site on the Internet.

I come here to get away from the stupidity everywhere else.

Hanford walks that fine line between boss/co-worker with all of us as masterfully as it gets.

Keep up the great work!

What's changed about Tiki Central? Every day gets better than the last.

Thank you hanford lemoore.



I couldn't possibly agree more.
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RevBambooBen
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Posted: 2006-01-22 8:21 pm   Permalink

[quote]
On 2006-01-22 14:04, hanford_lemoore wrote:
Quote:

I do appreciate your comments and want your feedback. Of course, the way you frame your commentary will influence the framing of my reply.

[ This Message was edited by: hanford_lemoore 2006-01-22 14:05 ]



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Stop all your whining bitches!!! Don't sip, drink!!! And, visit your local tiki bar often so it won't close!!

Remember, Tiki is a get away from it all thang.

Back to the Plumbing Forum...


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ookoo lady
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Posted: 2006-01-22 8:58 pm   Permalink

Yikes....

Let's all step back from the edge, folks.


 
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mrsmiley
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Joined: Apr 03, 2002
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Posted: 2006-01-23 09:56 am   Permalink

Quote:

On 2006-01-22 14:58, tikivixen wrote:

Oh for heaven's sake.

The whole multiple ID thing is just another case of a few jerks spoiling it for everyone else. Because of them, no one else can do it now. And as Midnite and many others ably demonstrate every day, genuine humor, aka wit, is not dead around here.

Hanford's being fair and implementing the policy across the board, which seems perfectly civilized to me. At first glance, it doesn't seem like a bad idea to allow performers like Iuka or advice columnists/commercial enterprises like WWJD alternate profiles, but the problem is, sooner or later SOME turnip would find a way to abuse the policy, and we'd be right back to the full ban.

Why don't y'all go smack up (just verbally, of course...) the real problem folks who ruined the fun? I bet lots of people know exactly who they are.


tikivixen

p.s. Hugs to Russell S. Monkey! I owe you a Monkey's Ass, little dude




I am tugged by both sides here. I am pissed that Hanford actually temporarily banned Inky from TC, but I do understand the reasons for his policy. It is not that Inky is a sh*t-stirring member. Yes, Inky is an innocent victim of the previous sh*t stirring "members" that either posted bad stuff and another name -or were banned and rejoined under multiple aliases so they could stir more crap. One bad apple may not spoil the whole lunch, girl, but many bad apples did spoil our have good, reasonable fun occasionally using multiple TC names!
In the past I semi-seriously joked with Hanford that we should be allowed ONE extra TC name if we desired. No, he won't do that, so please don't suggest he change his policy. I am not trying to start a vote here!
I have a feeling that Inky will no longer return, but Russell will! I have the right to be pissed at Hanford, he has the right to ban those that break the rules. So, all I have to say is, "Hanford, I still love you, man!" Smiley, out.


 
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