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cybertiki
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Joined: Jun 28, 2003
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From: Fort Lauderdale, FL
|  Posted: 2003-12-20 10:20 am Permalink
I just got my February Fortean Times, and the first article titled "Cannibal Apology" relates the story of a Fijian tribe apologising for killing and (predictably) eating a Missionary back in 1867. From the tribes perspective, they believe they have been living under a curse since the incident, and that in atoning for the dinner, the curse will be lifted. After reading the article which remarks upon some of the societal problems these people have, it sounds like they need more government assistance than curse lifting, but I guess it's up to them to decide what works best.
I found several links to the story online by searching Google with "Thomas Baker" "Fiji". Here's one link to the story on BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3263163.stm
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twowheelin'tiki
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From: santa monica
| Posted: 2003-12-21 1:05 pm Permalink
UMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!, you said "missionary", I feel that relates to religion, hence banned!!!!!!, how dare you!!, lock down quick before my overly sensitive brain goes into bozo mode!!!, oh the pain!!!!! hey c'mon you moderators, lock it fast.....I am dying here........
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christiki295
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Joined: Apr 09, 2003
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From: LA-2547 mls east Hawaii &5500 Easter Is
| Posted: 2003-12-22 8:43 pm Permalink
I'm not sure the Fijians should be so hard on themselves, based on what happened to Hawaii.
Sanford Dole, the son of a missionary, caused the downfall of the Hawaiian kingdom by the Bayonet Constitution in 1887 and the imprisonment and dethroning of Princess Liliokalani in 1893.
If I recall correctly, the missionaries outlawed the hula, which, in my Catholic-based opinion was an act which was a mortal sin.
Maybe I'm biased against a "save them from themselves" attitude.
However, not all missionaries were bad - Fr. Damien, a Dutch missionary on Molokai, should be a saint for his work improving the conditions for the lepers and is revered in Hawaii, who successfully lobbied to have his bones (of his right hand) returned to his grave in Molokai because of the mana contained in one's bones.
Closer to home, the verdict is still out on Fr. Serra.
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twowheelin'tiki
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From: santa monica
| Posted: 2003-12-22 10:40 pm Permalink
you dare speak of religion!!!!!!, what balls!.good for you.FREEDOM OF SPEACH!!!
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cybertiki
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From: Fort Lauderdale, FL
| Posted: 2003-12-22 11:22 pm Permalink
Actually, it was rather less about religion than it was about main courses ... as in "What's for dinner?"
I can almost hear the kids whining "Awwww Mom, we had Missionary yesterday!" or perhaps worse "Leftovers for dinner again!?!"
cannibal@cybertiki.com 
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Traitor Vic
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Joined: Jan 02, 2003
Posts: 428
From: Greenville, SC
| Posted: 2003-12-24 10:53 pm Permalink
UMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!, you said "missionary!" I feel that relates to a Missionary's Downfall (Rum, Rock Candy Syrup, Peach Brandy, Lime Juice, Pineapple Slice & Fresh Mint Sprigs... Grog Log p.54)! If I were one of those Barbaric Fijians I would choose this as a opportunity to Celebrate with a Missionary's Downfall! As a matter of fact, I think I might just do that right now anyhow.
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Johnny Dollar
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From: Baltimore, Maryland, PNG
| Posted: 2003-12-26 07:49 am Permalink
in a related story, lenny bruce was posthumoously pardoned by New York Gov. Pataki for his "obscenity" in 1964.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26299-2003Dec23.html
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christiki295
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From: LA-2547 mls east Hawaii &5500 Easter Is
| Posted: 2004-05-24 7:54 pm Permalink
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[i]On 2003-12-22 20:43, christiki295 wrote:
I'm not sure the Fijians should be so hard on themselves, based on what happened to Hawaii.
Sanford Dole, the son of a missionary, caused the downfall of the Hawaiian kingdom by the Bayonet Constitution in 1887 and the imprisonment and dethroning of Princess Liliokalani in 1893.
If I recall correctly, the missionaries outlawed the hula, which, in my Catholic-based opinion was an act which was a mortal sin. |
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Maybe I was being too hard on the missionaries, as they also reduced the Hawaiian language to writing.
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Philot
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Joined: Apr 04, 2003
Posts: 186
From: The armpit of Florida
| Posted: 2004-05-25 08:00 am Permalink
Ahhhh, so CyberTiki is a FT subscriber...
That's right folks, the only "government of the United States" recognized by king Kamehameha was none other than San Francisco's beloved Joshua Norton I, Emperor of the United States and Defender of Mexico.
Interpert that as you will. ;)
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Tiki Chris
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Joined: Mar 24, 2002
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From: London
| Posted: 2004-05-25 08:09 am Permalink
UMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!
You said Missionary! Rare, Medium Rare or Well Done?
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finkdaddy
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Joined: May 11, 2004
Posts: 2050
From: Wisconsin
| Posted: 2004-05-25 08:20 am Permalink
I'd like to read-up on some of this history. What are some good books on the subject?
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sweetpea
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Joined: Jan 14, 2003
Posts: 877
From: Seattle
| Posted: 2004-05-25 09:27 am Permalink
Hmmmm, missionary,
why are y'all thinkin of religion?
That's not what comes to mind
when I read it...
uh....
sorry, I'll git my mind outta the gutter someday...
PEa
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Atomic Cocktail
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Joined: Jun 25, 2002
Posts: 921
From: Land O' The Next Big One-L.A.
| Posted: 2004-05-25 10:17 am Permalink
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[i]On 2003-12-22 20:43, christiki295 wrote If I recall correctly, the missionaries outlawed the hula, which, in my Catholic-based opinion was an act which was a mortal si |
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It was King Liholiho (Kamehameha II) who abolished the Kapu system for his own political purposes in 1819, before the missionaries arrived in Hawaii. One could argue Liholiho made their work easier by presenting them with a society in turmoil.
For a good overview of Hawiian History check out this NPS site:
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/kona/historyt.htm
As for the Fijians, I think their problems stem from them not using "Trader Vic's Long Pig Bar-B-Q Sauce".
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lanikai
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Joined: May 15, 2004
Posts: 490
From: Hawaii
| Posted: 2004-05-25 1:18 pm Permalink
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On 2003-12-22 20:43, christiki295 wrote:
However, not all missionaries were bad -
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ah, yes. that old joke.
"The missionaries; they came here to Hawaii to do good but ended up doing very well..."
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hey; why didnt the cannibals eat that clown?!
cuz he tatsted funny.
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martiki
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Joined: Mar 29, 2002
Posts: 3056
From: http://www.smugglerscovesf.com
| Posted: 2004-05-25 2:32 pm Permalink
moving to Beyond Tiki....
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