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tikijackalope
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Joined: Oct 23, 2003
Posts: 814
From: KS/MO
|  Posted: 2004-03-01 12:37 pm Permalink
Sweet Daddy Tiki says:
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| Back when I started collecting mugs I used to be quite hard line about what was and wasn't tiki. Initially I was only interested in mugs that depicted somewhat "authentic" (troublesome word) tikis -- so no Mr. Bali Hai man, not even a Tiki Bob or Sneaky Tiki as they were too stylized for my taste. |
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Please tell us, if you remember, what all qualified for that list. I would like, at the core of my collection and displayed apart from others, a sub-set of mugs that are closest to actually portraying the various deities.
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Sweet Daddy Tiki
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Joined: Jul 20, 2003
Posts: 1026
From: Edmonton
| Posted: 2004-03-02 12:46 pm Permalink
well, tikij. I can't tell you the names of any specific mugs, i still hardly know my lono from my ku, but the mugs i was looking for preferably had a woodgrain look and a circle of sharp pointy teeth.
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CowboyMike
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Joined: Mar 06, 2004
Posts: 17
From: Montreal
| Posted: 2004-03-06 6:41 pm Permalink
I'm new but I want to weigh in on this one.
I don't think everyone places Tiki in the same context.
I display my Tiki mugs as part of a mid-century bar setup (a credenza-type bar, not one you'd stand up behind) in a room that has a orientalist/tribal-meets-1962 feeling.
My collection includes traditional Tiki heads, but also some new mugs (which stick out because they're not shiny) and some more figural ones like Hula bowls, an Orchids of Hawaii surfer girl, Fu Manchu, etc.
For me they're all Tiki mugs because they're associated with Polynesian pop, and my memories of Tikis from when I was a kid have to do with old-fashioned Chinese restaurants, which frequently had a Tiki bar of sorts (or at least a Tiki drink menu.)
I can certainly understand someone saying Fu Manchu isn't a Tiki mug because it doesn't depict a Tiki God if they're strictly a collector of Tiki mugs and doesn't try to place them in any kind of larger design context.
For me, the mugs fit in with my other Tiki carvings, African and Mexican sculpture/carving, a glass Eames-type oval cocktail table, an Indian Gabbeh rug (geometric figural animals,) masks, and chrome barware (and as an added anachronism, an aluminum rocket-shaped lava lamp.) It's a cool-looking room.
So rather than saying which mugs are and aren't capital-T Tiki, why not just look at it from the perspective of your goals as a collector? I definitely think that if a mug was used in a Tiki bar to serve a drink, or seen on a Tiki menu, it's a Tiki mug, regardless of whether it's a godhead, surfer girl or whatnot.
And the proof is in the pudding: by this rigourous definition of a Tiki Mug needing to have a Tiki Head design, that crazy-looking severed head mug from BoT would scarecely be a Tiki, n'es ce pas?
Just my $0.02
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RevBambooBen
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Joined: Nov 12, 2002
Posts: 7198
From: Huntikington Beach
| Posted: 2004-03-06 9:20 pm Permalink
and chrome barware (and as an added anachronism,
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Chrome with African, Mexican and Tiki, etc?! Did you mean to say, Anarchism instead of anachronism? Dude, you're all over the place!!! I like it!!!! Arrrrrrr!!!
(it's been a long dream of mine to Chrome Bamboo!)
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Johnny Dollar
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Joined: Oct 01, 2003
Posts: 2916
From: Baltimore, Maryland, PNG
| Posted: 2004-03-11 08:05 am Permalink
question ~ this board has "tiki finds," which includes some relatively poly-pop items, and "beyond tiki finds," which is anything else not tiki or poly-pop. where should hawaiiana items ideally go ~ things that are "this close" to tiki yet contain none?
or is this getting to persnickety? 
mahalo, j$
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Formikahini
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Joined: Aug 22, 2002
Posts: 1491
From: Houston, Texotica
| Posted: 2004-03-11 10:33 am Permalink
Hmm, good question j$
I tend to think of Beyond Tiki as having nothing to do with tiki, even arguably, so I'm happy to break Sven's motto of "If it says tiki on it, it should have a tiki on it" in this context. Therefore, I'm fine with Hawaiiana being here, personally.
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dogbytes
Grand Member (8 years) 
Joined: Mar 24, 2002
Posts: 2240
From: seattle, wa
| Posted: 2005-11-08 10:18 am Permalink
oh i couldnt decide: add to this thread (making Sven happy), or start a new "find (as suggested by Humuhumu).. but since i don't think this mug is officially Tiki ~ here it is:
anyone have info on this Daga mug? i tried to take a pix of the underside, to no avail. its says Daga Hawaii
the writing and highlights seem to be gold leaf pen applied after glazing.
El Sid's Sparks , Nev.
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Tikiwahine
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Joined: Apr 09, 2003
Posts: 3288
From: Ontario, Canada
| Posted: 2005-11-08 12:06 pm Permalink
There's a Daga mug from Hawaii at the thrift store right now. It's shaped like a football. I keep putting it with the mugs, they keep putting it back with the vases.
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MrBaliHai
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Joined: Jun 01, 2002
Posts: 775 | Posted: 2005-11-08 3:57 pm Permalink
Being a tiki purist is boring to me. I like faux-Polynesiana more than the real thing and I enjoy the kitsch angle, so my home bar and mug collection features a jumble of different Tropical/Asian styles that I think can all live comfortably under the same thatched umbrella.
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VonTiki
Grand Member (6 years) 
Joined: May 05, 2004
Posts: 207
From: Ventura, Ca
| Posted: 2005-11-08 10:14 pm Permalink
Does my volcano mug qualify?
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Rorysm
Tiki Socialite
Joined: Mar 17, 2003
Posts: 161 | Posted: 2005-11-09 1:03 pm Permalink
I saw a mug one time in an antique store that from a distance looked like a don the beachcomber or something, then up close it turned out to be some type of Davey Crocket Mug marked 1854 or something on the bottom. I didn't have the $20 bucks and I couldn't figure out why it was stamped 1854 either (maybe they were numbered?), but none the less I'd say... it's not tiki...yet, but wait till I buy it and glue little plastic leis to it!
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Johnny Dollar
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Joined: Oct 01, 2003
Posts: 2916
From: Baltimore, Maryland, PNG
| Posted: 2005-11-09 1:08 pm Permalink
there's a place near the harbor here that has lots of handled barrel mugs decorating its nautical theme. i enjoy the subtle vibe that although they aren't tiki, you could put a mai kai rum barrel in it and be polypoppy.
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dogbytes
Grand Member (8 years)
Joined: Mar 24, 2002
Posts: 2240
From: seattle, wa
| Posted: 2006-01-16 3:56 pm Permalink
here is my latest "is you ain't a tiki mug"...its a starbuck's "create your very own tumbler". i crammed as many Tiki Central people onto my insert as possible! makes me happy to sip my java surrounded by my TC Ohana!
 
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teaKEY
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Joined: Nov 09, 2004
Posts: 3663
From: The thumb !
| Posted: 2006-01-17 5:35 pm Permalink
This starbucks mug is on Ebay as I type this. In the smallest picture, looks even more like a Moai or something.
Who knew that five dollar garage sale tiki mugs and five dollar coffee went hand and handle.
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McTiki
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Joined: Aug 22, 2004
Posts: 1938
From: Sunny Florida
| Posted: 2006-01-19 6:23 pm Permalink
Freddie
Awesome "Tiki Rocket" I live near Canaveral where Maj. Nelson used to direct and observe everything. Relative for me Ohana !
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