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cynfulcynner
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From: Ocean Beach, San Francisco
|  Posted: 2004-03-29 10:48 am Permalink
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On 2004-03-29 09:43, martiki wrote:
I have a huge collection of rare and unusual beers in many styles from Belgium and I'm anxious to share.
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Have you tried Delirium Tremens? 
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atomictonytiki
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From: Bangkok
| Posted: 2004-03-29 12:10 pm Permalink
Michael Jackson may know his beers but in his book on cocktails he describes the "Zombie" as a novelty drink in which rum is crammed like students in a phonebox.
the best belgian beer is "La Chouffe Belgian Golden Ale" its brewed by gnomes.
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martiki
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| Posted: 2004-03-29 12:15 pm Permalink
Delerium Tremens? Nice beer, but c'mon- gimme a hard one. It's on draft at Toronado.
La Chouffe is a very nice beer as well, available 'round these parts at BevMo.
And too true about MJ and cocktails- I know we've mentioned that on some thread before. Someone from TC has got to grab the man and sit him down with a proper tropical drink (or seven) until he sees the light. And maybe take some clippers to that nasty beard while you're at it.
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Tikiwahine
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From: Ontario, Canada
| Posted: 2004-03-29 12:40 pm Permalink
Now, the beers here are very tasty. One of my favorites would be the Hermannator made by the Vancouver Island Brewery. It's only available at Christmas time, and it sells out every year. The bottles it comes in are HUGE, 650mL and each comes with a dark chocolate.
HERMANNATOR ICE BOCK is a dark chestnut colour that appears almost opaque. Its full-bodied, rich malt palate blends well with mild bitterness. A smooth, but assertive mouthfeel contains hints of plum spiciness. A warming brandy like finish rounds out this outstanding winter ice bock. It's 9.5%
Another one of my favorites is the Back Hand of God stout. This award-winning dry stout is extraordinarily smooth and mildly hopped with a distinct coffee/chocolate presence.
If you like beer, you should visit Victoria sometime. We host the annual Great Canadian Beer Festival at the beginning of September, which has over 40 beers to enjoy at $1 per glass(.75 US)  http://www.gcbf.com/
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freddiefreelance
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| Posted: 2004-03-29 1:17 pm Permalink
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On 2004-03-29 12:15, martiki wrote:
Delerium Tremens? Nice beer, but c'mon- gimme a hard one. It's on draft at Toronado.
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Hard one? OK, Sam Adams Millenium. 19.5 - 20.0 ABV, Original Gravity 37º Plato (EKU28 has an OG of 28 degrees Plato), fermented with maple syrup, aged in bourbon barrels... Or how about their Utopias? 24 ABV, fermented with maple syrup, aged in port, scotch and cognac barrels... There's an eBay Auction where you can buy us some, only US$1,000!
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martiki
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| Posted: 2004-03-29 2:16 pm Permalink
I never could find the Utopias or the Millenium around SF. I would have liked to try the Utopias very much, but obviously not at these prices. We do get that Chocolate Bock and the various Triple Bocks from them from time to time. I've had a few of the Triple Bocks and enjoyed them, as well as a few of their other specialty beers. But I think their regular beers are terrible. American microbreweries (and Sam Adams) are so often under the impression that the more hops you add, the better the beer. American Brewmasters seem to forget that hops are a *component* of the overall character of the beer, not the only element. This is something the British, Belgians, and Germans understand. I think microbrewers were so eager to distance themselves from the Buds/Millers of the world that they've overcompensated. It's extremely rare that an American Pale Ale or IPA tastes anything like the English equivalent it's trying to emulate.
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thejab
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From: Forbidden Island, CA
| Posted: 2004-03-29 2:41 pm Permalink
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On 2004-03-29 14:16, martiki wrote:American microbreweries (and Sam Adams) are so often under the impression that the more hops you add, the better the beer. American Brewmasters seem to forget that hops are a *component* of the overall character of the beer, not the only element. This is something the British, Belgians, and Germans understand. I think microbrewers were so eager to distance themselves from the Buds/Millers of the world that they've overcompensated. It's extremely rare that an American Pale Ale or IPA tastes anything like the English equivalent it's trying to emulate.
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Yes! I can't agree more, more hops is definitely not better. Balanced flavor is key, something many popular American beers, such as Fat Tire (one of the worst beers IMO), fail miserably at. I feel that Anchor Steam is pretty well balanced, would you agree Martiki?
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tiki mick
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From: Socal
| Posted: 2004-03-29 2:56 pm Permalink
George Killian's red..that's a fine beer...
And red stripe, from Jamaica..very clean tasting!!
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FLOUNDERart
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From: Orlando Florida
| Posted: 2004-03-29 3:43 pm Permalink
Old Milwaukee, best tasting beer in america, well at least that's what it says on the can. It wouldn't be there if it wasn't true!
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martiki
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| Posted: 2004-03-29 4:03 pm Permalink
Personally, I vote for Burgie! as the finest beer in America, if only because it's the only beer with an exclamation point in the name.
I would wholeheartedly agree with you, jab- Anchor Steam is excellent. The quality and balance of ingredients is first rate. I don't know if the unique shallow tub fermentation process has any bearing on the flavor, but there's magic in that beer. Personally, I think it's the San Francisco tap water. Straight out of Hetch Hetchy and into your bottle! In fact, there's a homebrew supply company that sells a pack of minerals that make your water taste like SF water so your beer can taste closer to Anchor.
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thejab
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| Posted: 2004-03-29 4:51 pm Permalink
Anchor makes a fine gin (Junipero) and whiskey (Old Potrero) as well. The whiskey is young (one year for the single barrel, three for the rye) so it's best on the rocks or with water.
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Kono
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From: Orlando
| Posted: 2004-03-29 7:36 pm Permalink
This thread makes me want to head for the nearest import beer store and get back into an old hobby. I used be very much into trying every kind of foreign or exotic or small brewery beer I could find. I also got into home brewing for a few years with some very good results. Nowadays I just drink Miller Lite in the plastic bottles (better than you might think and perfect for the Florida climate).
It's been years since I've delved into the world of gourmet beers but here are a few that I remember off the top of my head:
Boags - I think that was the name, an ale from Tasmania(?). I really loved that beer. My favorite.
Old Nick's - English. Heavy and sweet. Delicious.
Oberdorfer Weissbier - the blonde one. Excellent taste and outstanding bouquet (if you can use the word "bouquet" with beer)
Anchor Steam - been mentioned already
Double Grimbergen - Liked it much better than the Triple. Loved it, in fact.
Those are off the top of my head. I'm sure I'm forgetting some other great brews. Miller Brewing put out some really great "all malt" beers for a while. You could find them in any grocery store for a good price. Very nicely hopped but was d/c after a short time.
Special Mention goes to Haffenreffer Private Stock Malt Liquor. King of the malt liquors. Anyone else ever have this? Like Jagermeister, it seems to have an effect above and beyond mere alcohol. I have a fairly prodigious tolerance level but I've never finished a six pack of Private Stock. Plus they give you a pictograph puzzle inside each bottle cap (at least they did, it's been years). Did a google and according to this linkPrivate Stock has an alcohol content of nearly 7%.
MUST...START...DRINKING...MORE...BEER...
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Trader Woody
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From: Tiki Manor, Forest of Bowland,UK
| Posted: 2004-03-30 03:04 am Permalink
My new local pub serves Deuchars on draft, which was the champion beer of Britian in 2002. I really can't get enough of the stuff. A true quaffing ale! You can get it in bottles, too, so it might well be available in the US.
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atomictonytiki
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From: Bangkok
| Posted: 2004-03-30 05:01 am Permalink
the Caledonian brewery is only spitting distance from my house and their pub is my nearest watering hole.
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JTD
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From: J'ville
| Posted: 2004-03-30 05:06 am Permalink
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On 2004-03-29 19:36, Kono wrote:
Special Mention goes to Haffenreffer Private Stock Malt Liquor. King of the malt liquors. Anyone else ever have this? Like Jagermeister, it seems to have an effect above and beyond mere alcohol. I have a fairly prodigious tolerance level but I've never finished a six pack of Private Stock. Plus they give you a pictograph puzzle inside each bottle cap (at least they did, it's been years). Did a google and according to this linkPrivate Stock has an alcohol content of nearly 7%.
MUST...START...DRINKING...MORE...BEER...
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Kono,
In high school, my buddy and I would split a six-pack of Haffenreffer and get blotto. I believe the "Green Monster" (as it was known) was brewed by Naragansett at the time, so locally available in SE Mass. Ah good memories...well what little I can remember.
JTD
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