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Gene Rains-exotica musician- info wanted
mriddle
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Posted: 2004-06-09 12:23 pm   Permalink

TikiGardener,
I agree! There must be some information out there somewhere. There is a little bit of info on the back liner notes of the first release "Lotus Land". I'm at work right now, but I'll see if I can't gleen any info from that. I find the info on these exotica musicians fascinating. Its such a specialized genre that few LPs made it to CD, little is known about the remainders and even less seems to be known about many of the artists. I still can't find the release years for any of the Rains LPs, they simply aren't printed anywhere on the jackets or platters. I would like to create an exotica info database, but there is little out there. I guess this genre requires some good old fashioned detective work.

I too would be curious to see if any TC'ers out there in Hawaii can dig up anything on Rains.
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kooche
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Posted: 2004-06-09 4:32 pm   Permalink

let's face it...rains came to light late in history for Decca...they'd been pressing vinyl for 30+ possibly 40 years when these records were published...they just got sloppy and lazy...being that hawaiian music was so popular early on in the last century maybe they had made the assumtion that hawaiian tunes such as these were a thing of the past...

to me the rains group is much less of a hook riddled sound that that of the wonderful martin denny group or the like ...rains is WAY more relaxed (is that possible?) and more subtle...quiter in many ways...his records are obviously not populating sales bins like the baxter denny and lyman pressings are...he must not have seen the success that these staple groups did and most likely went into exotica before them as a pioneer and passed sadly unnoticed save for his contemporaries and people like us...it might be up to us fellow listeners to deduce what we can from what is left...near to nothing in so far as liner notes go...if we give it time (a relative term indeed) something will present itself...

all i can say to you is this...i have my eyes on the ebay community and the next rains record i DON'T have that pops up for auction will be mine...this i solemnly swear! you have been warned but know this also ...i'll share the treasures that lie in the grooves of this future record of mine in the form of mp3s
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johntiki
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Posted: 2004-06-09 4:46 pm   Permalink

I've got 'Far Across the Sea' and 'Lotus Land' if anyone wants to trade CDR's of them for other exotica...
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mriddle
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Posted: 2004-06-10 8:32 pm   Permalink

OK, here is some info I gathered from the back of the LP covers for Gene Rains:

LOTUS LAND:
"...it was the late Alfred Apaka who discovered the Rains group in some obscure bar in Honolulu and signed them for the big build-up in the famous Shell Bar of the Hawaiian Village Hotel in Waikiki. We (Decca records) happened to be there in Septeber of '59 on a recording junket...Alfred insisted that we listen to Gene and his quartet."
PERSONNEL: Gene Rains-Vibes, Paul Conrad-paino, Archie Grant-bass & flute, Allen Watanabe-percussion. Arrangements by Rains & Conrad (I think this is the same Paul Conrad who recorded a solo album called "Exotic Paradise" with the tucan bird on the cover)

The way I understand it; the Hawaiian Village is where Apaka was the music director. Apaka was also the one who hired Martin Denny's band (with Arthur Lyman) to play at the Village. Henry J. Kaiser was the owner of the Hawaiin Village where he built the "aluminum dome". Which is where the Arthur Lyman band recorded some of their albums.


 
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kooche
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Posted: 2004-06-10 9:25 pm   Permalink

i picked up that "Magic Islands Revisited" (w/ Alex Stordahl) today and it is pretty damn splendid...

while scouring my local high end record store here in LA i found 2 copies of Lotus Land...if anyone wants one i can give you the contact info to the place that has them on the shelf...it's so worth getting...gene rains first record and it's nice!

so if rains first made it onto wax in 59 then when was M Denny's first record date...anybody know off the top of their head?


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TikiGardener
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Posted: 2004-06-13 4:04 pm   Permalink

Kooche, that image in your sig needs to be a mug. Hey Holden! I'd buy two!
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kooche
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Posted: 2004-06-13 8:41 pm   Permalink

haha!
MUNKTIKI is the MAN for me when it comes to mug making! thanks for suggesting that you'd love a couple of these mugs...don't be surprised if it happens in time!
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TikiGardener
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Posted: 2004-06-14 02:43 am   Permalink

You make that puppy, I'm buyin'!

 
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kooche
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Posted: 2004-06-14 10:17 am   Permalink

a chichi would taste good in one of these...then again a chichi is what it is...i could slurp one off of a truck stop bathroom floor and it'd be heaven!
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mriddle
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Posted: 2004-06-14 10:21 am   Permalink

Koochie,
I checked out that record store this weekend. I must say, I was impressed with the amount of records they had; stacked so high up, I couldn't even read the spines. It seems like the place you have to go in already knowing what you're looking for.


 
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kooche
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Posted: 2004-06-14 1:14 pm   Permalink

yeah it's a good idea to know what you want before you go into ANY record store...that way they can show you the section of the library that you want to scour...did you score that gene rains LP???
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mriddle
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Posted: 2004-06-14 1:24 pm   Permalink

Actually I have a copy of the Lotus Land, I'm looking for the "Far Across the Sea" LP. And now that I just learned of its existance, I'm looking for the Alex Stordahl & Gene Rains LP too.

 
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kooche
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Posted: 2004-06-14 1:31 pm   Permalink

not sure if they have another copy but i picked up an alex s record there with a gene rains credit..."Magic Islands Revisited" mentioned in this thread previously...fantasitic record though there is more orchestration in it than on the other LPs...

already killed the whole circut here in la looking for gene rains stuff...atomic has squat...aron's has zilch....nobody has anything...i even hit the pasadena city college record swap ...NADA! the waiting game begins!!!
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kooche
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Posted: 2004-06-20 5:15 pm   Permalink

can't believe that there isn't a new find of this man's on ebay yet....the time is RIPE for a bidding war is it not???

 
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TikiGardener
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Posted: 2004-06-20 11:05 pm   Permalink

Indeed!

Next time you're out Pasadena way, we should hook up. The hospitality of our courtyard is open to you. It is a little quite space that almost no one who walks in Old Towne knows exists. Sadly no Tikis, as it is shared with the other occupants of our building. But if I crank Mr Rains on the stereo, a little temporal shift occurs.
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