||TIKI OASIS IV - How was the Event? How was the Resort? How was The REEF?
Joined: Mar 25, 2002
|Posted: 2004-05-20 2:23 pm  Permalink|
What I miss most about the islands ... is the innate warmth and good nature of the people
Try the west side (Makaha) of Oahu and finding yourself in the wrong neighborhood and see how fast you can run haole boy!
Maybe (big maybe) 50 years ago it was all 'aloha', but now the 'aloha' spirit is about the same as if your car broke down in South Central LA.
Please note - AquaZombie, I like you so this isn't a stab at you, bruddah!
"I'm ashamed to be here, but not too ashamed to leave..."
Joined: Jun 19, 2002
From: Santa Ana, CA.
|Posted: 2004-05-20 7:27 pm  Permalink|
I am so glad no one has to explain themselves.
I would have to much to read if they did.
PLEASE lock this in a drawer so we can continue being white.
When this stops being fun
It's our fault
Have no brakes Cannot stop
Happydog (What can I do?)
Joined: Mar 25, 2002
From: West Los Angeles
|Posted: 2004-05-21 12:33 am  Permalink|
I would be remiss if I didn't set straight the tale of the missing tiki dress I described at the beginning of this thread. I want to thank all of you who alerted me to the Tiki News Lost and Found message about the "purple and black tiki outfit". I responded to the poster with a full description and it appears that it is the one! Not stolen, accidently stuffed in someone else's bag after a day of festivities. I can imagine the look on the guys face when he pulled that thing out of his pack "What the...?"
Joined: Aug 01, 2003
|Posted: 2004-05-21 12:03 pm  Permalink|
TikiBong - no offense taken, pally, we're all being subjective here. I was speaking from personal experience in a general sense. I mean, we did get our rental car broken into while parked overnight in a Honolulu hotel, so it wasn't one big lei-covered welcome wagon!! I was also warned to stay away from certain dark alleys but you can say that about any big city anywhere. I live in Oakland which gets an undeserved rap because all you hear about is the crime, when the truth is, there's so much more to it that is positive. (Like it's not just the home of the drive-by, but also the Mai Tai!) But overall, Hawaii was paradise on Earth, especially Kauai, at least for me. My wife wouldn't want to live there full time, though, since she's really into live theater (as an actress) and she doesn't think there's enough there to keep her busy, plus she'd feel too isolated. Me, that's what I'm looking for! A 60s Japanese style ranch house would be nice to keep there as a time share. Someday.
TikiMick -no offense taken there either, my man - I LOVE lesbians! I have a lot in common with them! My wife is part lesbo and boy, am I glad of it - I can hang up all the pinups I want without getting any PC backlash (she's a feminist, too!) plus she actually likes em! The perfect marriage!
Everyone else - hey man, it's all good, I dig everybody here (from a distance, I haven't actually met most of you, as far as I can tell), no matter what out petty differences. Tiki People are Good People in my book, of any stripe or color.
Joined: Apr 24, 2004
From: Van Nuys, Ca. (Lake Balboa to the snobs)
|Posted: 2004-05-21 7:45 pm  Permalink|
Well..... I must say I understand both sides of AquaZombies and Atomics arguments. But quotes like these are what gets people in trouble.
""I didn't know white people had their own culture!" she exclaimed. (fine that's her ignorance)
"They don't - that's the point," I said" (well,.... you should know as well as I do. Whites do have their own cultures depending on where they are from).
"If white people really have their "own" culture, I wish they'd show it by pulling up their baggy pants over those pasty butt cracks, turning around their baseball caps and no longer calling each other "dog."
Sign of the times my friend. If you lived in Sweden (a mostly "white" populated area with quite a bit of "Culture"), You probably wouldn't be exposed to as much of that "dog" mentality as you would living in "Oakland". (not bagging on Oakland!! I love Tower of Power!!). But I wouldn't expect any less if I lived in Compton, Los Angeles.
Just like my parents who are from Europe (Pops migrated from N. Africa to where my mom is from..... France) always used to chatise me for smoking pot and listening to music like Rush, Zepplin, etc. And just like I'm sure there are people that dislike those that wear Pooh-Bah hats, pink bath robes, and go around toughting a "Hedonistic" lifestyle, or have a gansta/rap influence, amogst other influences........... All of these things are influencing our youth AND!!! our adults. It's just a sign of the times and the "influence du the area you live in" like it or not.
What was it that John Lennon said?? Kill all the lawyers 1st!! uh..... maybe that was Shakespere.......well anyway.......
Another example...... Most Jews are considered "white" and have a culture, traditions and influences as old as the Pyramids.
I could easily see the 2nd quote written/spoken by Aquazombie would definetely offend certain people........... say........ Europeans. You know?? The area where where modern culture came from?? Barring the Renesciance as pissing in the wind, usually people that have been diluted to the level of a Jerry Springer show guest may have negative things to say about anybodies culture, quirks, or upbringing. But it shows a lack of class.
I understand that Aquazombie was just trying to make a point about how different cultures adopt others stories, religions, traditions, etc. But I think you've gotta watch taking shots at your own "white" brothers/sisters, even if it was intended to be self inflicting. Yeah I laugh at Eddie Murphy when he talks about "whities" and they're funny ways, and when Chris Rock makes jokes about "crackas". It's very funny stuff!! Good comedy comes from some sterotypical truth and is usually exactly that...... very general and not meaning everyone is the same. But it doesn't come without their critics either. I think if you're gonna post something on this website, be ready for any rebuttals.
I do want to thank you for the "give-a ways" on Saturday and the "Drive in movie". (getting back to the original focus of this thread). I agree with others that the screen was too small, the movie lost my attention, and that the sound was really hard to hear. But would like to see something like what others have recommended for next year. Bigger screen, better sound, and a movie that would keep peoples attention.
As far as exotica, I would love to see the exotica dancers try to incorporate some sort of polynesian theme of some sort. Even if its just getting down to a grass skirt and some coconut paisties. Just humor me!!
The thing that probably tee'd me the most was when I was when I just finished showering and somebody was knocking at the door. I shouted a response twice to who ever it was on the outside that I was coming. I thought it was Cheekygirl because they started to open the door. I just got my shorts on when a girl that worked for the Hotel barged her way in and said, "I'm the cover turner overer...... or hospitality hostess"........ er something like that. Quite frankly, I thought that was an invasion of privacy. I felt that a better procedure would be..... if she didn't get a response, to not enter the rooms without permission of the guest. What if someone were having sex, or had money laid out all over the room?? I'm not saying that the employees would be dishonest, but a policy of not going in unless the guest were there would keep everybody honest.
Sorry to be so long winded and hopefully I didn't offend anybody with my post. If I did, please forgive me.
Everybody lets kiss and make up!! Bring another MaiTai!!! Great Tiki Oasis everyone involved!!
Grand Member (8 years)
Joined: Apr 02, 2002
From: SF bay area, CA
|Posted: 2004-05-21 8:22 pm  Permalink|
I felt that a better procedure would be..... if she didn't get a response, to not enter the rooms without permission of the guest.
I can see how it could feel a bit like an invasion of privacy, but actually as one who travels a lot (too much), I've realized that this is the convention. The hotel staff can't *only* go in when they get a response - they'd never get their job done. So if you want privacy the best option to use the "Do not disturb" and/or the manual locking latch that's typically provided. I usually put the "do not disturb" up right away and leave it there during my whole stay. We don't clean our sheets and towels every day at home, so no reason for it on the road.
Joined: Apr 24, 2004
From: Van Nuys, Ca. (Lake Balboa to the snobs)
|Posted: 2004-05-21 9:10 pm  Permalink|
Good point aquarj!!!